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Re: YouTube No Translation

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The fact that this is needed and not configurable is so frustrating. I'm almost certain nobody even asked for this. What a great way to stop people ever needing to learn another language. God forbid people use their brains for anything that 30 second shorts.

After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort. Translating is the only option for the vast majority of people.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#42

Unbelievable that YouTube has not made this feature configurable. I am a language learner and use YouTube to find target language content. It’s very difficult now because you can no longer trust the title of the video to tell you what language it was intended for. Would have been very simple to add a settings toggle. This is one of the worst app inconveniences I’ve come across in recent years.

Google has always been a pain when it comes to internationalisation. The number of hoops you have to jump through to get results from the actual Google page when you are outside of the US is mind boggling. I don’t even know if it’s still possible.

> The number of hoops you have to jump through to get results from the actual Google page when you are outside of the US is mind boggling.

Do you mean results in English, or results that are specifically US-centric?

Re: YouTube No Translation

#43
post #41
post #23

The fact that this is needed and not configurable is so frustrating. I'm almost certain nobody even asked for this. What a great way to stop people ever needing to learn another language. God forbid people use their brains for anything that 30 second shorts.

After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort. Translating is the only option for the vast majority of people.

> After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort.

It takes considerable investment and effort before you’re 25, too, you just don’t notice it because it happens slowly over a long period in school and via immersion.

I move around a lot so I’ve had to learn a few new languages as an adult - at least to basic proficiency, if not approaching fluency - and I don’t think it’s really any more difficult than it was when I was a kid, except that I now recognize how difficult it is.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#44
post #30

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Yup. I look up videos with Polish titles precisely because I want local content made in Poland telling about things specific to Poland, not some other stuff which turns out to be in English made for other locales. But I guess they see my frustration as "engagement".

> because I want local content made in Poland telling about things specific to Poland, I used to use site:reddit.com as my go to must-use keyword whenever I wanted to look for something on Google, but since they introduced automated translation in my language (French) it has become a nightmare because I would find irrelevant content written for other places even when I type my search in French. You see, they had the…

Both duckduckgo and brave search have reddit index. Not as much complete, as google sometimes, but at least without this nonsense.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#45
post #41
post #23

The fact that this is needed and not configurable is so frustrating. I'm almost certain nobody even asked for this. What a great way to stop people ever needing to learn another language. God forbid people use their brains for anything that 30 second shorts.

After 25 you can’t really learn new languages without considerable investment and effort. Translating is the only option for the vast majority of people.

This is a misleading take. Do you consider the decade of language “learning” that a child does before they are “fluent” to not be a considerable effort?

Many people learn new languages all the time for a variety of reasons. In some regions of the world, it is expected of you to learn a half dozen languages throughout your lifetime.

I’m not against translating but it should not be the default in society if there is also no opt-out.

As someone who started learning a new language in my late 20s after a move across the world, I haven’t found it any more difficult than any other skill that requires diligent practice. Guitar, programming, driving; language is a skill. Since western humans tend to only learn them at a young age it can be easy to forget that.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#46
post #33

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You gotta remember that "think of the average person, and then remember 50% are dumber than that". By doing this, Youtube has probably 10x'd available content for "dumb" ppl to watch. Respectfully, my parents are in that cohort, and I suspect my father will happily watch AI translated and dubbed woodworking channels and not care at all. He "wins" here. I have to acknowledge that there are probably more people like hi…

What's dumb about watching dubbed woodworking videos? And what part of watching japanese videos in japanese makes superior? You know what's dumb, though: failing to acknowledge that the world is diverse and people have diverse needs that we can't even start to imagine. I'm happy for your dad that AI has opened for him the gates to even more content to watch from around the world about his hobby.

Your comment appears very hostile considering the fact that the parent you’re replying to was actually doing exactly that, being considerate that there are many people that prefer things to be dubbed as they don’t master English all that well.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#47

Anybody knows the business reason for this feature to exist? most people here and in other places are incredibly frustrated with auto-translate and the inability to turn it off. I include myself in that bunch. There are two potential reasons in my mind: - Youtube folks A/B tested it and it got more engagement - n/ views, time viewed per video, etc. (but were they tracking the right metrics? ie did they capture user f…

It's extremely sinister. The grand prize is feeding people AI-generated content, and completely removing the human factor. Many platforms started as social media, but converted into content delivery platforms. Which is cool, except content creators can be problematic. If you remove them out of equation, you basically get audience to watch whatever slop you want them to watch, with zero human interaction at all. Spotify is already taking serious steps by promoting AI-generated music. In this context, forcing AI-generated translations onto people is a step towards getting them used to listening AI-generated voice. And you can market this easily by saying "we just want people to have more cross-cultural communication, no evil here".

I don't want to completely disregard AI-generated content. Some of it can be actually good, and I use AI as a talking companion. But at the same time it's a technology that can easily be abused. And it will be abused. And we'll love it. Except those few nutjobs who resist, but nobody will care. Free speech doesn't matter when nobody's listening.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#48
This really needs to be configurable on a per-account basis. I'm using YouTube mostly on mobile devices and TVs, without the possibility to use addons.

The required settings are quite simple (a lot of social media platforms have them): Setting a list of languages that should never be translated, and setting a preferred language the other ones should be translated to.

I guess the silicon valley people who develop YouTube can't grasp the concept that there are people out there who speak multiple languages.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#49

Anybody knows the business reason for this feature to exist? most people here and in other places are incredibly frustrated with auto-translate and the inability to turn it off. I include myself in that bunch. There are two potential reasons in my mind: - Youtube folks A/B tested it and it got more engagement - n/ views, time viewed per video, etc. (but were they tracking the right metrics? ie did they capture user f…

Well, surely the idea is that anyone can watch any video in any language. Especially enabling the non-English-speaking world to consume the much larger corpus of English-speaking content. The idea is great. They just botched it at the UI level. In practice it means clicking a video you think is in your native language but it's actually in English with low quality auto-subs, but there's no reason Youtube couldn't impr…

Sure, but it kills the UX for people who speak more than one language. Which is probably the majority of YouTube users (outside the US).

Re: YouTube No Translation

#50
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You gotta remember that "think of the average person, and then remember 50% are dumber than that". By doing this, Youtube has probably 10x'd available content for "dumb" ppl to watch. Respectfully, my parents are in that cohort, and I suspect my father will happily watch AI translated and dubbed woodworking channels and not care at all. He "wins" here. I have to acknowledge that there are probably more people like hi…

What's dumb about watching dubbed woodworking videos? And what part of watching japanese videos in japanese makes superior? You know what's dumb, though: failing to acknowledge that the world is diverse and people have diverse needs that we can't even start to imagine. I'm happy for your dad that AI has opened for him the gates to even more content to watch from around the world about his hobby.

> And what part of watching japanese videos in japanese makes superior?

Bilingual people exist and the AI translation YouTube currently uses sounds very unnatural and destroys everything that isn't voice.

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