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Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by mindcrime »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #12
heisenbit wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One does not need VMware for SpringBoot so?

Not spring boot, but spring, is owned by VMware. Sure spring is under a free license but if upstream enshittifies, community forks would be required.

And as popular and widely used as Spring is, that would 100% happen. To me at least, I wouldn't count this as a particularly huge risk. But in an enterprise setting, with mandatory auditing and stuff, I can understand why there would be a requirement to at least pre-identify alternative(s).

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

skissane wrote: post #38
dpkirchner wrote: post #16

Maybe this will finally break me of my habit of using helm charts, period.

I’ve never used Helm charts. I learned K8S in a shop in which kustomize is the standard and helm is a permitted exception to the standard, but I just never felt any reason to learn helm. Am I missing out? Sometimes the limitations of kustomize annoy me, but we find ways to live with them

I wouldn't say you're missing out. If kustomize works for you, keep using it. I personally use helm because I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around kustomize. I've looked at tutorials, read the docs, and it just doesn't make sense to me. Helm, on the other hand, immediately clicked and I was able to pretty effortlessly write charts for our use. It's just a case of different preference in tools, imo.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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bags43 wrote: post #4
_1tan wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any indications or just a feel?

Company where I work had huge risk audit. The second highest risk is using USA based cloud with 66/100. The first one was using Spring Boot everywhere 77/100. Till the end of 2025 we need to have migration path to something else with 2 PoCs done.

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Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by latchkey »

lapusta wrote: post #18
ntqz wrote: post #2

I could see the writing on the wall with this. On that note, I'm already looking at migrating my codebase off of Spring. Just testing the waters with Quarkus, Helidon, Micronaut, Pekko, Vert.x, and plain Jakarta EE right now.

Red Hat effectively killed their JBoss/Middleware team and the rest of it moved to IBM https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/evolving-our-middleware-strat... Quarkus and other tools were pushed to CommonHaus/Apache. I believe Vert.X was also mostly developer by RH team, although moved to Eclispe Foundation a decade ago. Oracle also ended up somehow sponsoring 2 frameworks: Helidon & Micronaut. I'd bet Spring is still the sa…

I still see Gavin working on JEE.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by EdwardDiego »

cheshire_cat wrote: post #22
dpkirchner wrote: post #16

Maybe this will finally break me of my habit of using helm charts, period.

Why do you want to stop using helm charts? Genuine question, as I'm new to Kubernetes and helm.

Golang string templating in a whitespace sensitive config language suuuuucks.

I might use Helm charts for initial deploys of operators, but that's about it.

Kustomize is, IMO, a better approach if you need to dynamically modify the YAML of your resources and tools like ArgoCD support it.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by EdwardDiego »

ntqz wrote: post #2

I could see the writing on the wall with this. On that note, I'm already looking at migrating my codebase off of Spring. Just testing the waters with Quarkus, Helidon, Micronaut, Pekko, Vert.x, and plain Jakarta EE right now.

I quite like Micronaut, especially the ability to use its compile time DI as a standalone library in a non-Micronaut app.

Quarkus is pretty similar, but is built on top of Vert.x so a lot of the fun of Vert.x (don't block the event loop!) is still present. It also does compile time DI.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by EdwardDiego »

lapusta wrote: post #18
ntqz wrote: post #2

I could see the writing on the wall with this. On that note, I'm already looking at migrating my codebase off of Spring. Just testing the waters with Quarkus, Helidon, Micronaut, Pekko, Vert.x, and plain Jakarta EE right now.

Red Hat effectively killed their JBoss/Middleware team and the rest of it moved to IBM https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/evolving-our-middleware-strat... Quarkus and other tools were pushed to CommonHaus/Apache. I believe Vert.X was also mostly developer by RH team, although moved to Eclispe Foundation a decade ago. Oracle also ended up somehow sponsoring 2 frameworks: Helidon & Micronaut. I'd bet Spring is still the sa…

Yeah my old colleagues who work on Kroxylicious are now IBM. I keep asking them if they're wearing a blue tie to the office yet, they still don't think it's funny.
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