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Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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I only learned recently that Felix nearly had to pull out of the jump due to claustrophobia from the suit. After CBT he was able to tolerate the suit and complete the jump. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/skydiver-felix-baumgartner-ove...

Wearing a spacesuit, you can't scratch your nose.

You maybe don't think it's a big thing but try sitting one minute without touching your face.

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No, but they might be if they advocate for a "moderate dictatorship" to replace a democracy.

I disagree - it's not really a horrific opinion to feel that both democracies and dictatorships are absolute catastrophes at the moment. Clearly there's a correct choice among only those two options, but something in between might be even better. Of course I have no idea how you would make a dictatorship "moderate", but I'd love for it to be a real thing, and it doesn't feel reasonable to imply a person is a monster…

For all their failings, there is nothing catastrophic about democracies at the moment. Not compared to the actual catastrophes that autocracies commit. Lumping the two together as equally failed is ridiculous.

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#43

I only learned recently that Felix nearly had to pull out of the jump due to claustrophobia from the suit. After CBT he was able to tolerate the suit and complete the jump. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/skydiver-felix-baumgartner-ove...

Wearing a spacesuit, you can't scratch your nose. You maybe don't think it's a big thing but try sitting one minute without touching your face.

I have no idea why you think this is a thing, but just in case I subconsciously tend to do this, I set a timer for 2 minutes without touching my face.

It was effortless.

Edit: wait, I've been in an MRI machine for over an hour where I can't move my arms from my side. How can you think one minute is anything?

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As generally people don't just nod off flying a paraglider, a medical event is extremely likely even if it has not been officially determined.

They might however "nod off" in consequence of losing control during risk-taking activities and being subjected to high Gs. Whether "medical event" was prior to or resulted from risk-taking adventure, and hence culpability, will await forensics I imagine. If those are possible. That determination aside however, risk-taking that puts others at risk (e.g., flying over other people) is morally and in many jurisdictions…

Do you mean activities like driving a car?

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> In recent years, he made headlines of a different sort with controversial political statements, criticizing German and Austrian migration policies and opining that a "moderate dictatorship" would be preferable to a democracy, in which "you can't move anything." That's putting it mildly. The full quote [1] is: > Wie weit sind wir bereit unsere Identität und unsere Kultur aufzugeben und sie zu vermischen mit einer vö…

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A demographic shift isn’t a “great replacement”.

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As generally people don't just nod off flying a paraglider, a medical event is extremely likely even if it has not been officially determined.

They might however "nod off" in consequence of losing control during risk-taking activities and being subjected to high Gs. Whether "medical event" was prior to or resulted from risk-taking adventure, and hence culpability, will await forensics I imagine. If those are possible. That determination aside however, risk-taking that puts others at risk (e.g., flying over other people) is morally and in many jurisdictions…

I don't think that's true. I see powered paragliders out at the beach all the time, and to my knowledge that was perfectly legal as long as you are licensed properly.

I suspect that the story here is that until things went wrong nobody expected that this was a risk-taking activity in the first place (any more so than paragliding in general is). Do we have reason to believe he was doing it unsafely before disaster struck and he lost control?

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

#47

I only learned recently that Felix nearly had to pull out of the jump due to claustrophobia from the suit. After CBT he was able to tolerate the suit and complete the jump. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/skydiver-felix-baumgartner-ove...

At the start of the jump he started spinning out of control, but he regained it later. I always thought he just got the hang of it, but if he was claustrophobic, maybe he panicked a bit before composing himself.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In recent years, he made headlines of a different sort with controversial political statements, criticizing German and Austrian migration policies and opining that a "moderate dictatorship" would be preferable to a democracy, in which "you can't move anything." That's putting it mildly. The full quote [1] is: > Wie weit sind wir bereit unsere Identität und unsere Kultur aufzugeben und sie zu vermischen mit einer vö…

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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that figure is accurate.

So what?

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