Apple Intelligence Foundation Language Models Tech Report 2025

Post by bronco21016 » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:13 PM UTC

basisword wrote: post #37

mittermayr wrote: post #35

All I can say is, I asked Siri today (verbatim): What is 75 degrees fahrenheit in celsius, and what is 85 degrees in fahrenheit — and it offered a web search about fahrenheit. The "and" completely disabled its most basic ability to do metric conversions. So, it's nice to see Apple is doing research and talking about it, but we're out here waiting, still waiting, for anything useful to make of it all on our thousand-d…

>> What is 75 degrees fahrenheit in celsius, and what is 85 degrees in fahrenheit Probably wouldn't have made a difference but the second half of that statement isn't exactly clear. 85 degrees what? I also think when you're chaining these two separate calculations together you get a problem when it comes to displaying the results.

Post by JKCalhoun » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:15 PM UTC

bronco21016 wrote: post #41

basisword wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> What is 75 degrees fahrenheit in celsius, and what is 85 degrees in fahrenheit Probably wouldn't have made a difference but the second half of that statement isn't exactly clear. 85 degrees what? I also think when you're chaining these two separate calculations together you get a problem when it comes to displaying the results.

Meanwhile users have been conditioned to expect a system that understand the multiple queries and answers them appropriately.

Post by JKCalhoun » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:18 PM UTC

bitpush wrote: post #38

The more I think about Apple, the more I realize that Apple is so far behind. While other companies are pushing the envelope (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google ..) Apple's ambitions seem much much smaller. And this is after they made very big claims with Apple Intelligence last year, when they had everyone fooled. This is like watching a train-wreck in slow motion.

Post by simonw » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:19 PM UTC

perfmode wrote: post #22

> We believe in training our models using diverse and high-quality data. This includes data that we’ve licensed from publishers, curated from publicly available or open- sourced datasets, and publicly available information crawled by our web-crawler, Applebot. > We do not use our users’ private personal data or user interactions when training our foundation models. Additionally, we take steps to apply filters to remo…

Post by seydor » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

basisword wrote: post #37

mittermayr wrote: post #35

All I can say is, I asked Siri today (verbatim): What is 75 degrees fahrenheit in celsius, and what is 85 degrees in fahrenheit — and it offered a web search about fahrenheit. The "and" completely disabled its most basic ability to do metric conversions. So, it's nice to see Apple is doing research and talking about it, but we're out here waiting, still waiting, for anything useful to make of it all on our thousand-d…

>> What is 75 degrees fahrenheit in celsius, and what is 85 degrees in fahrenheit Probably wouldn't have made a difference but the second half of that statement isn't exactly clear. 85 degrees what? I also think when you're chaining these two separate calculations together you get a problem when it comes to displaying the results.