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N8n vs. node-red

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Re: N8n vs. node-red

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What is an “antigenic AI” or “antigenic workflow” in this context? It’s used so consistently that I’m not sure if it’s just careless editing or if it’s something new I don’t know about.

sorry, i am Dyslexic, and the spell checker missed this. someone was kind enough to point this out on medium. I have fixed this typo

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#42
post #7

What is an “antigenic AI” or “antigenic workflow” in this context? It’s used so consistently that I’m not sure if it’s just careless editing or if it’s something new I don’t know about.

Seems the writer made a typo in the prompt.

Funny enough, I choose not to use AI to review my stories, as I find it results in an article that is not in my own voice. As i am Dyslexic, I will update this typo.

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#43

Neither please god. We used Node-Red at a previous job for integrating some third party software, total disaster, from upgrading, using JSON for code reviews, to overall performance. Its a fun toy, leave it at that.

I know what you mean about code reviews. I have got that covered,

https://github.com/daniel-payne/functions-templates-manager

https://discourse.nodered.org/t/node-red-and-vs-code-integra...

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems the writer made a typo in the prompt.

Funny enough, I choose not to use AI to review my stories, as I find it results in an article that is not in my own voice. As i am Dyslexic, I will update this typo.

It was mere speculation on my part, didn't meant it as anything mean.

The article made me check node-red so it did provided something valuable.

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#46
post #7

What is an “antigenic AI” or “antigenic workflow” in this context? It’s used so consistently that I’m not sure if it’s just careless editing or if it’s something new I don’t know about.

LOL! Another example of AI slop

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#47
post #46
post #7

What is an “antigenic AI” or “antigenic workflow” in this context? It’s used so consistently that I’m not sure if it’s just careless editing or if it’s something new I don’t know about.

LOL! Another example of AI slop

SORRY! Another example of dyslexia : my bad

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#48
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be happy to take your experience into account in case I'll need to vouch this in the future. But unfortunately it's not very clear what shortcomings of Node-Red were a problem for you. Could you rephrase your experience, focusing on what you believe Node-Red does wrong?

I'm also interested in this. My workplace is looking into this, and my intuition says no, but I'd really like to hear other people's experiences, both positive and negative ones.

this is from a post on the node-red forum, and a solution i made.

Once you start to get big and complicated with node-red you will have this issue. But the rest of node-red is fantastic. It also covers a fix for git code reviews and integration with external testing frameworks.

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I hope this can help anybody having the same issues as I have when writing long functions in node-red editor.

Coding anything over 50 lines become difficult to work with, or trying to view multiple functions at the same time. The rest of node-red is fantastic!

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https://github.com/daniel-payne/functions-templates-manager

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#49

I understand nothing of this article. What does it mean by "n8n" lacks a UI? All it has is a UI, what use cases does the UI not handle? The writing is very poor and does not make sense at all.

agreed, I'm running it on my localhost right now and it's got a full WYSIWYG interface. This article is slop

thank you for your kind words, I obviously was not clear in how I wrote the article, AI might have picked it up. But I am old school and type everything my self. It's part of the feynman learning process I use.

However I have updated the article so it is much clearer, the UI that is missing from n8n is not WISIWIG, but a management dashboard, to be viewed once the system is live. I have added the following:

"To be clear here, I did not mean the UI that you use to create flows with, both systems are drag and drop flow creators. The issues I come across is visualizing what is going on inside of a system once it is created and up and running."

Re: N8n vs. node-red

#50

Neither please god. We used Node-Red at a previous job for integrating some third party software, total disaster, from upgrading, using JSON for code reviews, to overall performance. Its a fun toy, leave it at that.

I'd be happy to take your experience into account in case I'll need to vouch this in the future. But unfortunately it's not very clear what shortcomings of Node-Red were a problem for you. Could you rephrase your experience, focusing on what you believe Node-Red does wrong?

1. Workflow builder is cumbersome at scale, it's often hard for anyone to jump in to understand what is going on exactly. Especially if you cannot avoid using a JS node to perform a more tricky manipulation.

2. Often times you end up writing code to help support node-red, you must avoid this at all costs because you end up shifting more and more into code bases, making node-red pointless.

2. Lots of sub menu "advanced" functions that you will need to use for any complex flow.

3. Observability is poor out of the box, especially if you use a service like datadog or NewRelic, we ended up using a catch all error handler that just shipped events to NewRelic.

4. Poor out of box defaults for security, mainly authentication

5. Conflict resolution sucks, you have to JSON stable stringify the changes to ensure you can deal with conflicts and conduct proper code reviews.

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