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My question is: who protects Children against the UK Government? Governments are very dangerous institutions. They hold a lot of power and can abuse it.
Could be.
Having said that US culture vs the rest of Western Nation culture mindset imho.
Majority of Europeans and Canadians don't see Governments as a Monster.
My question is: who protects Children against the UK Government? Governments are very dangerous institutions. They hold a lot of power and can abuse it.
UK Voters or no one, depending on which half of the glass you focus on. Sovereign power is scary af, but in theory also kept in check by voters. The problem is that no matter what form of government you have, it is still downstream from culture, and if this kind of policy is what UK voters want or can be talked into wanting, then this is what the King’s subjects shall get.
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We are in a community of hackers. There are tools such as VPNs which are effective at bypassing these requirements. That will likely change in a few years as the government will want to crack down on circumvention techniqus. The law is incidious enough to actually suggested that educating people on how to bypass the checks is not allowed - I sincerely hope no court ever upholds that otherwise the very act of educatio…
Are you suggesting that the entire population of the UK switch to using VPNs? > So you could have 1000's of smaller bulletin boards. Once they get large enough they'd need to shut down and restart in order to not be within scope. This will work until the moment some actual pedos run some of those small message bords and use it to groom kids and politicians will have the necessary munition to shut down those sorts of…
Countries have tried to enforce censorship but even places like China have gaps that are exploitable if you have the right tools and knowledge.
Everyone should be learning about how to bypass state overreach, it's an obligation of its people.
Here's what you want to know: https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/kids-web-services/pv-service/... > Parents in all regions except the USA and the Republic of Korea can verify their age using face scan. KWS prompts the parent to hold their device in front of their face. A machine-learning algorithm estimates the parent’s age using the device’s camera. > Face scan verification is provided by Yoti (yoti.com). They have an a…
> I would put a lot of money on it not being able to detect you pointing your phone at a Veo3 video of an old person though. I recently had to verify my identity for UK government company registration purposes. I had to use my phone to scan my biometric passport, then it did facial recognition while flashing the screen between red, green and blue. Presumably doing... something... hoping to detect fake faces. (as well…
I'd assume they were checking that your face reflected the light properly. If you were using a fake face on another screen being held up to the camera, it'd be more emissive than reflective.
Here's what you want to know: https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/kids-web-services/pv-service/... > Parents in all regions except the USA and the Republic of Korea can verify their age using face scan. KWS prompts the parent to hold their device in front of their face. A machine-learning algorithm estimates the parent’s age using the device’s camera. > Face scan verification is provided by Yoti (yoti.com). They have an a…
> I would put a lot of money on it not being able to detect you pointing your phone at a Veo3 video of an old person though. I recently had to verify my identity for UK government company registration purposes. I had to use my phone to scan my biometric passport, then it did facial recognition while flashing the screen between red, green and blue. Presumably doing... something... hoping to detect fake faces. (as well…
Ah that's actually pretty clever. It'll detect reflective surfaces instead of emissive ones. Still possible to defeat but significantly harder. I imagine there are still some smart kids that could do it. Definitely fewer though.
Here's what you want to know: https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/kids-web-services/pv-service/... > Parents in all regions except the USA and the Republic of Korea can verify their age using face scan. KWS prompts the parent to hold their device in front of their face. A machine-learning algorithm estimates the parent’s age using the device’s camera. > Face scan verification is provided by Yoti (yoti.com). They have an a…
Can't speak about this one in particular, but the face scans for banking that I know of also includes liveness checks to avoid AI impersonation (and presumably dead bodies).
This is a good way to test if a service is actually federated: Does this affect people using other servers? If people using other servers can communicate with each other and not care what policies the central bsky server sets, then it's actually federated.
That said, since it is still quite possible to do so, I think Bluesky is on the right side of that tradeoff.
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Can't speak about this one in particular, but the face scans for banking that I know of also includes liveness checks to avoid AI impersonation (and presumably dead bodies).
What kind of liveness checks?
I'm not familiar with how it works on the implementation side. A ML conference that I attended had a presenter working on this area and beating AI impersonation was their #1 priority (along with other trivial approaches).
For what it's worth, this might also be just a security theater from the banks, though.
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Yeah this particular system doesn't sound great. It seems like Epic are storing the fact you're verified and your email. I've definitely seen systems where they verify you and immediately delete the data.
Makes me wonder: why do we not have a government provided service? IDing people has, traditionally been a responsibility of the government. Even the private verification services ultimately rely on you showing your government issued ID at some point. If the governments want online verification, they should provide the tools and make sure they are accessible to all.
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I also strongly value privacy and honestly this kind of scheme always rubs me wrong. In the physical world, we have IDs, provided by the government, a business is only required to do a brief check and often does not have to retain information. This means that you can retain a fair bit of privacy for the individual, and the burden on the business is fairly low. And yet, for some reason, online we get the worst of both…
We got here because adults cannot stop using the internet to victimize children. Education failed. Enforcement has largely failed. A loss of privacy is the next logical step until adults stop victimizing children. I use my nine year olds accounts fairly regularly and I’ve gotta tell ya mate, the number of dudes I meet who are pretending to be 9 and 10 year olds girls is pretty shocking. A loss of privacy stinks but a…