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What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by zx8080 »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

> a gorgeous site with custom code injected CSS and Java (while grokking most of it)

From the context, it's not Java, but Javascript.

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by edaemon »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

Interesting, CDNs require a lot of infrastructure to be effective, what did you (or the LLM) use to set that up?

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by comeondude »

zx8080 wrote: post #41
comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

> a gorgeous site with custom code injected CSS and Java (while grokking most of it) From the context, it's not Java, but Javascript.

Gotcha. Thanks.

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by alganet »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

Nice! That's what we all want, but without the content reapropriation, surveillance and public discourse meddling.

Think of a version that is even more fun, won't teach your kids wrong stuff, won't need a datacenter full of expensive chips and won't hit the news with sensacionalist headlines.

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by stevage »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

I do love the approachability they create. Personally as a coder, I don't find the AI experience at all fun, but I get that others do.

Have you tried using AI to further changes to any of these projects down the line?

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by adamredwoods »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

I enjoy the fun attitude, I had a family member state something similar, but I always warn: with powerful AI comes serious consequences. Are we ready for those consequences? How far do we want AI to reach into our lives and livelihood?

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by le-mark »

zx8080 wrote: post #41
comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

> a gorgeous site with custom code injected CSS and Java (while grokking most of it) From the context, it's not Java, but Javascript.

This was the most surprising/disturbing/enlightening part of the post imo. Surpring; this person literally had no clue! Disturbing; this person literally had no clue? Enlightening; this person literally did not need a clue.

My takeaway as an AI skeptic is AI as human augmentation may really have potential?

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by comeondude »

edaemon wrote: post #42
comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

Interesting, CDNs require a lot of infrastructure to be effective, what did you (or the LLM) use to set that up?

Maybe CDN isn’t the right term after all, see I’m not a software engineer!

But, basically I wanted a way to have a custom repository of fonts a la Google Fonts (found their selection kinda boring) that I could pull from.

Ran fonts through transfonter to convert them to .woff2, set up a GitHub repository (which is not designed for people like me), and set up an instance on Netlify, then wrote custom CSS tags for my ghost.org site.

The thing that amazes me is that aside from my vague whiff of GitHub, I had absolutely no idea how to do this. Zilch. Nada. Chat GPT gave me a clear step by step plan, and exposed me to Netlify, how to write CSS injections, how ghost.org tagging works from styling side of things. And I’m able to have back and forth dialogue with it, not only to figure out how to do it, but understand how it works.

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by smj-edison »

rtkwe wrote: post #29
why_at wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty cool. I figure this is explained in some of the videos but I can't watch them right now. I'm reading more about the "OS" Realtalk >Some operating system engineers might not call Realtalk an operating system, because it’s currently bootstrapped on a kernel which is not (yet) in Realtalk. You definitely couldn't fit the code for an LLM on the wall, so that makes sense. But I still have so many questions.…

Yeah he's put out a fair number of videos and the whole idea makes more sense there or if you can manage to visit in person. I think even if you could squeeze down an LLM and get it to run in realtalk I don't think it fits with the radical simplicity model they're going for. LLMs are fundamentally opaque, we have no idea why they output what they do in the end and can only twiddle the prompt knobs as a user which is…

I believe it runs on stock Linux, but it's an operating system in the sense that it multiplexes tasks and facilitates IPC. The closest analogy I can think of is something like a lisp machine or Smalltalk, where the line between program and OS is really blurry.

Also, if you haven't heard of folk computer[1] as a viable alternative, I'd highly suggest checking it out! I'm one of the contributors, and it's definitely not dead (unlike all the other dynamic land spin-offs I've seen). The head programmers—Omar and Andreas—both worked at dynamic land for a couple months, so they've been able to carry over the good parts while also open sourcing it. The implementations have definitely diverged, but imho in a good way—folk computer is working on multi threading and is much more realtime-safe (you'll see in the latter dynamic land videos that it pauses every second or so).

[1] https://folk.computer/

Re: What is Realtalk’s relationship to AI? (2024)

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Post by atleastoptimal »

comeondude wrote: post #39

Im genuinely blown away by llms. I’m an artist who’ve always struggled to learn how to code. I can pick up on computer science concepts, but when I try to sit down and write actual code my brain just pretends it doesn’t exist. Over like 20 years, despite numerous attempts I could never get past few beginner exercises. I viscerally can’t stand the headspace that coding puts me in. Last night I managed to build a custo…

I think much of HN has a blind spot that prevents them from engaging with the facts.

Yes, AI currently has limitations and isn't a panacea for cognitive tasks. But in many specific use cases it is enormously useful, and the rapid growth of ChatGPT, AI startups, etc. is evidence of that. Many will argue that it's all fake, that it's all artificial hype to prop of VC evaluations, etc. They literally will see the billions in revenue as not real, same with all the real people upskilled via LLM's in ways that are entirely unique to the utility of AI.

I would trust many peoples' evaluations on the impacts of AI if they could at least engage with reality first.

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