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Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

There is also NanaZip which aims to be a more modern Windows application and I think also incorporates the additions of the 7zs fork https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #23

7-Zip 15.05 is still useful today, because it was the last version to include built-in support for decompiling NSIS installer scripts. The feature was removed due to security concerns.

I've not personally used it, but there's a fork that adds NSIS decompilation back in: https://github.com/myfreeer/7z-build-nsis

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

Perhaps a tangent, but until now, I've only seen or used "codec" in the audio/video sense. While somehow awkward, it seems this would also be correct, since it also compresses and decompresses. Video codec but archive format. Sometimes you see a word used a new way and wonder if you've just been wrong all these years.

The defining factor isn't compression/decompression, it's just encoding.

You'll see codec used in things like text encoding.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #40

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I think those first appeared in some form in XP. I don't recall 2000 having support for it integrated into explorer.

They were introduced in the Microsoft Plus package for Windows 98, then finally integrated into Windows ME. Windows ME was released after Windows 2000, so the feature didn't appear there. But it did appear in XP. You could actually install the Windows ME version of the shell extension on 2000.

Ah, well that might explain my thinking it came around in the XP days - by then I had discovered the WinRAR indefinite trial, so I didn't really need an alternative.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

Maybe it's just me but I got weird feelings seeing 7-Zip-zstd repo having more stars than it's upstream.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #31

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>while with 7-zip it seems to immediately delete the temporary file so the external app ends up trying to open a non-existent file. No, 7-zip only deletes the file after you close its window, so as long as you don't close 7-zip any apps should be able to open those files. Winrar doesn't delete on close, but that has its own problems, namely that you accumulate a bunch of extracted files in your %TEMP% directory, and…

I just tried it with 7-zip 19.0, and double-clicking a video file in a 7z archive, and VLC could not open the extracted file because it didn't exist. E: Tried again with procmon monitoring 7-zip, and after it completed writing the file it deleted it.

There must be something funky with your setup. I just tested using the exact version of 7-zip and latest version of VLC in a fresh windows VM, and it doesn't have you issue you described. I can even see the file lying around in %TEMP%\7z[random characters], and they aren't deleted until I close the 7-zip window.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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I think that at least since win10 there is zip embedded in windows, it’s just not 7z

Zip support has been in Windows since XP. In 11 (and maybe later 10 updates) they added 7z and rar support.

Except weirdly enough, when you open a .zip there is an "Extract All" button.

When you open a .tar.gz or a .rar that button is gone.

For those you need to do right mouse on the .tar.gz or .rar and click "Extract All...".

I miss the days when Windows' UI was consistent.

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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post #35

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

I prefer NanaZip[1]. It has all the features of the ZS and NSIS fork while being fully compatible with the new Windows context menus.

[1]: https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

Re: 7-Zip 25.00

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a tangent, but until now, I've only seen or used "codec" in the audio/video sense. While somehow awkward, it seems this would also be correct, since it also compresses and decompresses. Video codec but archive format. Sometimes you see a word used a new way and wonder if you've just been wrong all these years.

The defining factor isn't compression/decompression, it's just encoding. You'll see codec used in things like text encoding.

While technically true, the term has been largely co-opted by the A/V realm. It’s pretty rare to hear outside of the context.
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