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TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by RockRobotRock »

defrost wrote: post #35
jazzyjackson wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would indeed be an impressive feat to produce a film satirizing child porn

Off the cuff the closest example to mind is the Paedogeddon!! special episode of the Brass Eye series created by Chris Morris. Admittedly that didn't satirize CSAM material, rather it cut hard into the reflexive reaction people have at the very thought of CSAM and peodophiles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedogeddon Moreover, that took a human to thread that needle, it'll be a while before AI generation can pass th…

This is the one thing we didn't want to happen

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

nvch wrote: post #20

The question is, who is acting in a racist manner here: the LLM that does what it can, or the humans sharing those videos?

Until we get a LLM that actually "thinks", it's just a tool like photoshop. Photoshop isn't racist if someone uses it to create racist material, so a LLM wouldn't be racist either.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by WillPostForFood »

ivape wrote: post #17

I think it's fine to fingerprint AI generated images/videos. It's a massive privacy violation but I just can't see any other way. Too many people have always been and will always be unethical.

To what end? You want to fingerprint all AI images and video to catch people who make racist videos in order too to do what? It isn't illegal. If TikTok doesn't like the content they can delete the video and the account. If Google or OpenAI doesn't want the content being created, they can figure out a way to block it, and delete the user's accounts in the meantime.

If I told you many 14 year olds were making very similar offensive jokes at lunch in high school, would you support adding microphones throughout schools to track and catch them?

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by redundantly »

unsnap_biceps wrote: post #42
nvch wrote: post #20

The question is, who is acting in a racist manner here: the LLM that does what it can, or the humans sharing those videos?

Until we get a LLM that actually "thinks", it's just a tool like photoshop. Photoshop isn't racist if someone uses it to create racist material, so a LLM wouldn't be racist either.

LLMs can and do have biases. One wouldn't be far off calling an LLM racist.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by atentaten »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #30
drdaeman wrote: post #9

> nothing drives engagement on social media like anger and drama There. It isn’t even a “real” racism, it’s more of a flamebait, where the more outrageous and deranged a take is, the more likely it would captivate attention and possibly even provoke a reaction. Most likely they primarily wanted to earn some buck from viewer engagement, and didn’t care about the ethics of it. Maybe they also had the racist agendas, ma…

> make sure everyone is well aware about how their attention is the new currency in the modern age, and spend it wisely, being aware about the addictive and self-reinforcing nature of some systems. i.e. delete your facebook, your tiktok, your youtube and return to calling people on your flip phone and writing letters (or at least emails). I say this without irony (The Sonim XP3+ is a decent device). all the social ne…

Have you thought about what we're currently sleep walking into?

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Post by corimaith »

drdaeman wrote: post #9

> nothing drives engagement on social media like anger and drama There. It isn’t even a “real” racism, it’s more of a flamebait, where the more outrageous and deranged a take is, the more likely it would captivate attention and possibly even provoke a reaction. Most likely they primarily wanted to earn some buck from viewer engagement, and didn’t care about the ethics of it. Maybe they also had the racist agendas, ma…

>And the only low-harm way - that I can think of - how to put this genie back in the bottle is to make sure everyone is well aware about how their attention is the new currency in the modern age, and spend it wisely, being aware about the addictive and self-reinforcing nature of some systems.

Gonna be hard to admit, but mandatory identity verification like in Korea, i.e attaching real consequences to what happens in the internet is more realistic way this is going to be solved. We've have "critical thinking" programs for decades, it's completely pointless on a aggregate scale, primairly because the majority aren't interested in the truth. Save for their specific expertise, it's quite common for even academics to easily fall into misinformation bubbles.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by whattheheckheck »

atentaten wrote: post #46
jazzyjackson wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make sure everyone is well aware about how their attention is the new currency in the modern age, and spend it wisely, being aware about the addictive and self-reinforcing nature of some systems. i.e. delete your facebook, your tiktok, your youtube and return to calling people on your flip phone and writing letters (or at least emails). I say this without irony (The Sonim XP3+ is a decent device). all the social ne…

Have you thought about what we're currently sleep walking into?

What have you thought about it?

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

RockRobotRock wrote: post #38
eurleif wrote: post #32

Somewhat related, on YouTube, there's a channel filled with fake police bodycam videos. The most-viewed of these are racially inflammatory, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkXOkXNd8w The description of the channel on YouTube claims: "In our channel, we bring you real, unfiltered bodycam footage, offering insight into real-world situations." But then if you go to their site, https://bodycamdeclassified.com/ , w…

These videos are insane, and the lack of "this is fake" comments are disheartening.

I assume those just get deleted?

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

eurleif wrote: post #32

Somewhat related, on YouTube, there's a channel filled with fake police bodycam videos. The most-viewed of these are racially inflammatory, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkXOkXNd8w The description of the channel on YouTube claims: "In our channel, we bring you real, unfiltered bodycam footage, offering insight into real-world situations." But then if you go to their site, https://bodycamdeclassified.com/ , w…

I've seen less than a handful of, usually shorts, on YT purporting to be body-cam footage, but they all seem too well-framed and fairly obviously scripted / staged / fake to me, because I'm actually paying attention to the 'environment' not just the 'action'.

But I doubt most doomscrollers would notice that in their half-comatose state.

It IS real, unfiltered bodycam footage. From an actor, following a script, in front of one or many other actors, also following scripts. I think that's how they get away with it, they don't specify it's bodycam footage from actual law enforcement. Yes, gross.

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