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Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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paraschopra wrote: post #31
dsiroker wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats, Paras! As for a comparison, Optimizely uses Akamai which has 100,000 nodes in 75 countries. VWO uses Cloudfront and does two round-trips. Cloudfront has 32 points of presence in 12 countries. Optimizely response time: Slowest: 289ms, Average: 65ms, Slowest: 19ms VWO response time: Slowest 1983ms, Average: 276ms, 171ms Source: http://till.klampaeckel.de/blog/archives/100-Shopping-for-a-... Unique features to…

Thanks Dan. Appreciate you pitching in. However, actually, you have old statistics. We recently rolled out a dynamic, custom built CDN that sped up our response times by 7x. Our average is now 45ms. We spent a lot of time perfecting our system. See the details here: http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/split-testing-blog/geo-dis... Plus, you are wrong about almost all of your points: - We do have a well documented API.…

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Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Post by ericclemmons »

As a long time user of VWO, I'm very impressed and pleased with their success.

Early on, perhaps about 2 years ago, I reached out to Paras asking for an API so our internal dashboard could show the status and performance of all running tests.

Within a few days, there was a private (or non-published) API ready to go. Since then, my business and I have been using it daily.

Disclaimer: I even supplied a testimonial for their homepage after frustrating experiences with Google and Omniture. :)

Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Post by brianbreslin »

terat wrote: post #17
brianbreslin wrote: post #14

excellent. with 1600+ paying customers that means they are clearing over $1M in revenue/year. ($49 being cheapest plan * 1600 = 80k/month)

Considering the listed plans alone are $49, $129, $249, $729, $900, $1,700 I'm willing to bet annual revenue is many, many, MANY multiples higher than $1 million. And that's not taking into account all the custom enterprise plans on the very high end. Really inspirational and motivational stuff for us entrepreneurs just starting with out SaaS apps to see this - and it's all done without giving away a chunk of ownersh…

That's what I figured as well. But was just looking at the bare minimum. glad to see they are a profitable and young business.

Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

dsiroker wrote: post #39
paraschopra wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks Dan. Appreciate you pitching in. However, actually, you have old statistics. We recently rolled out a dynamic, custom built CDN that sped up our response times by 7x. Our average is now 45ms. We spent a lot of time perfecting our system. See the details here: http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/split-testing-blog/geo-dis... Plus, you are wrong about almost all of your points: - We do have a well documented API.…

It's great to see multiple products in the market trying to solve this problem and I admire your ability to do so without a large team or any funding. It's unclear how the market will grow in the future but we're thrilled to see Optimizely grow +397% amongst the top 10,000 websites in the last year to over 2,500 happy customers. I'm glad to see you are focusing on improving your response time. Unfortunately hitting l…

Did Optimizely make that graphic? The support comparison is deceptive. You are comparing the basic plan of VWO to the platinum plan of Optimizely. And comparing lines of code is meaningless. In fact for the reasons outlined above by paras, a 21 line implementation which does not block the site load is more beneficial to most users.

@paras: Your response times do not look good. Why are you using a homegrown pseudo CDN instead of a real one like akamai or limelight ? Also why not make your API docs public ?

Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Post by paraschopra »

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #44
dsiroker wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's great to see multiple products in the market trying to solve this problem and I admire your ability to do so without a large team or any funding. It's unclear how the market will grow in the future but we're thrilled to see Optimizely grow +397% amongst the top 10,000 websites in the last year to over 2,500 happy customers. I'm glad to see you are focusing on improving your response time. Unfortunately hitting l…

Did Optimizely make that graphic? The support comparison is deceptive. You are comparing the basic plan of VWO to the platinum plan of Optimizely. And comparing lines of code is meaningless. In fact for the reasons outlined above by paras, a 21 line implementation which does not block the site load is more beneficial to most users. @paras: Your response times do not look good. Why are you using a homegrown pseudo CDN…

The reasons for having a homegrown CDN is mentioned in the article. The major reason though is that our URL matching (determining whether to run a test or not on a particular URL) is complex, and CDNs cannot handle that.

Reason API doc is not public is because API is on demand right now, but anyone can use it. They just have to request for a key from us.

Re: Bootstrapped Wingify moves to a bigger office and hits 1600+ customers

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

paraschopra wrote: post #45
boundlessdreamz wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did Optimizely make that graphic? The support comparison is deceptive. You are comparing the basic plan of VWO to the platinum plan of Optimizely. And comparing lines of code is meaningless. In fact for the reasons outlined above by paras, a 21 line implementation which does not block the site load is more beneficial to most users. @paras: Your response times do not look good. Why are you using a homegrown pseudo CDN…

The reasons for having a homegrown CDN is mentioned in the article. The major reason though is that our URL matching (determining whether to run a test or not on a particular URL) is complex, and CDNs cannot handle that. Reason API doc is not public is because API is on demand right now, but anyone can use it. They just have to request for a key from us.

I still don't get why the docs cannot be public. Stripe for example has public API docs.
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