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Accuweather, who also depend on this same USG sensor data for their modeling… I don’t think anybody wins from this. See e.g. https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-su...

Are there other countries with similar weather satellites? I imagine China or the EU likely have some of their own. I know the US has been pushing this for free so plenty of nations likely piggy back off the free data. But I imagine larger ones might want their own redundant services to some degree to avoid vulnerability. If so, they might be benefiting, but that’s about it.

"Since its establishment in 2014, the Copernicus program has received consistent investment from ESA, making it the world’s largest and most advanced open data Earth Observation initiative for climate, disaster, and resource management."[0]

Data from the Copernicus program is available for any citizen or organization worldwide. So a lot of free data will still be accessible.

[0] https://newsletter.terrawatchspace.com/global-earth-observat...

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

They're not just petty, they're wildly impractical. You can't privatise NOAA and the services it offers. It cannot work at an equivalent level as a private service. Its effectiveness relies on being able to decide what's valuable in purely scientific terms, and those terms don't align with short-term corporate greed. But if you ask these cranks what NOAA actually does, they'll have no clue. They're not just evil, the…

They're not trying to privatize NOAA; they're trying to shut it down.

NWS is what they're trying to privatize.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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I see 3 possibilities: They're cutting it off to limit bad news about climate change, for political reasons. Or they're trying to set up some private company to sell the same data. Or (tinfoil hat on) they're going to do something the raw microwave data might expose and so they're trying to keep the microwave data secret.

There's no mystery, this is the execution of Project 2025. https://envirodatagov.org/project-2025-annotation/

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They're not just petty, they're wildly impractical. You can't privatise NOAA and the services it offers. It cannot work at an equivalent level as a private service. Its effectiveness relies on being able to decide what's valuable in purely scientific terms, and those terms don't align with short-term corporate greed. But if you ask these cranks what NOAA actually does, they'll have no clue. They're not just evil, the…

They're not trying to privatize NOAA; they're trying to shut it down. NWS is what they're trying to privatize.

Yes the conflation is my bad because I think this move is relative to NWS privatization, which is what might strike most people. You can’t have the government predicting and tracking major weather events and issues, those are the biggest datasets to sell access too.

For other NOAA fallout effects in the government, a Potus wouldn’t have to rob from the FEMA funds if there’s nothing for FEMA to prepare for, in that FEMA cannot say we need to spend money to help flooding in Texas or hurricane damage in Florida. No cancel that and put that money into the tax break or 1% monetary “business investment” funnel fund. [0] [1]

[0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=flood

[1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Fema&sort=agency-de...

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

A lot of very specific things in the original source: https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...

I found this one funny:

  Overlap exists between the National Marine Fisheries Service and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Overly simplified, the NMFS handles saltwater species while the Fish and Wildlife Service focuses on fresh water. The goals of these two agencies should be streamlined.
Right next to

  Scientific agencies like NOAA are vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims if political appointees are not wholly in sync with Administration policy. Particular attention must be paid to appointments in this area.
Yikes.

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Russia, China, Europe have similar systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation#Global_na... It'd be a huge disruption but it's not irreplaceable.

With Galileo being interoperable with GPS and more accurate it might not even be that big of a deal.
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