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Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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I don’t mean to minimize the company’s role in their offerings, but are these rebadged Clevo/Tongfang/etc laptops? There’s a place for those but that would make NovaCustom more comparable to system76 or Tuxedo than Framework, which designs their own hardware.

than Framework, which designs their own hardware.

They don't either. I believe Framework is OEM'd by Compal.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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I don’t mean to minimize the company’s role in their offerings, but are these rebadged Clevo/Tongfang/etc laptops? There’s a place for those but that would make NovaCustom more comparable to system76 or Tuxedo than Framework, which designs their own hardware.

than Framework, which designs their own hardware. They don't either. I believe Framework is OEM'd by Compal.

Did some looking and it appears that Framework does in fact design the hardware. They have a deal with Compal to then manufacture it.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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than Framework, which designs their own hardware. They don't either. I believe Framework is OEM'd by Compal.

Did some looking and it appears that Framework does in fact design the hardware. They have a deal with Compal to then manufacture it.

Depends what you mean by "design". They get to choose some aspects of how it looks in general, but as for the actual schematics/PCB layout, that's based on the CPU manufacturer's reference design.

Edit: the amount of downvoting the original comment got, and the sibling that got killed for saying effectively the same thing, makes me think someone is trying to push a certain narrative, but the truth is out there. No one except a very small number of OEMs actually designs PC mobos, and they are also based on reference designs from Intel or AMD.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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I don’t mean to minimize the company’s role in their offerings, but are these rebadged Clevo/Tongfang/etc laptops? There’s a place for those but that would make NovaCustom more comparable to system76 or Tuxedo than Framework, which designs their own hardware.

I’d wish custom development could be minimized and everyone instead assembled next generation systems using the best open, standardized, and reusable parts.. which then could be sourced or salvaged on almost any continent. Just a wish.

Spend enough time in a repair forum and you'll realise that 99% of laptops out there are already just reference designs from the CPU manufacturers. Of course Apple is the exception, but when they were still using x86 CPUs, so were their designs.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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This seems to have nothing similar to what Framework laptop offers. The main (only?) selling point for NovaCustom is open source coreboot firmware and disabling of Intel ME. I'd like to see Framework laptop with these features, but those two features do not make a Framework alternative.

The spare parts front and center without hoops or hacks does look pretty much like Framework actually.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

#46

Yeah a company that you have to pay 9 euros to NOT HAVE an engraving of their logo on your $2,000 machine really inspires confidence in their respect for your privacy.

It does for me. In case you missed the Snowden leaks, pretty much every American laptop OEM is in bed with the NSA. I swear that hipster marketing has ruined HN's ability to evaluate products. Next you people are going to start bitching about the logo not lighting up.

> pretty much every American laptop OEM is in bed with the NSA

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? The big revelation of the Snowden leaks was that the NSA was spying on Americans, which it isn’t (wasn’t) supposed to do. What does a laptop vendor have to do with it?

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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I don't really understand what's privacy-focused about it that Framework isn't. Isn't privacy mostly a software problem, other than hardware switches on camera/mic, which Framework already has? > We do not use Google Analytics Why do I care if you use Google Analytics? Doesn't affect the laptop I get. You're free to analyze your site traffic with whatever tool you want. (I block Google Analytics on the client side pe…

Looks like they just default to privacy. Sounds trivial but is actually quite important. Second they are using coreboot, so no proprietary firmware. Much better than average.

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Your world must be so different from mine! It would never occur to me to care about such a thing. I was content with 8GB of main RAM in my dev laptop until about a year ago.

The vRam for example limits you running local llms. Basically, the formula for this is: 1GB of vRAM can handle 1B parameters. There are ways to overcome this, but the easiest way for the best performance, is just to have enough vRAM.

If running local LLMs were a thing I ever wanted to do, I'm sure that would be something that mattered to me.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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Nvidia drivers have included serious Wayland support since the 550 series. My NixOS Nvidia system has run equally as smooth as my Intel iGPU for close to a year now.

I have a GTX 650 Ti that keeps being erratic with Wayland to where it becomes unusable out of the box. Didn't take any time to try and resolve because it is being used as a server. Disabled the GUI service and only boot into terminal.

Like I said, you need 550-series drivers or later to have good support. The 600-series has been depreciated for a while now so its not surprising that it's not supported.

Re: NovaCustom – Framework Laptop alternative focusing on privacy

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Did some looking and it appears that Framework does in fact design the hardware. They have a deal with Compal to then manufacture it.

Depends what you mean by "design". They get to choose some aspects of how it looks in general, but as for the actual schematics/PCB layout, that's based on the CPU manufacturer's reference design. Edit: the amount of downvoting the original comment got, and the sibling that got killed for saying effectively the same thing, makes me think someone is trying to push a certain narrative, but the truth is out there. No on…

I mean, isn't laying things out so the ports they need for the expansion slots "design"? It's not like there'll be a reference design that has those in those locations.
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