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Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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bnjms wrote: post #36
dangus wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recent iOS versions have granular controls over library access to prevent this.

It isn’t nice to use though. You select your picture then when you need to add more you’ve got to go back into the settings for that app and select the picture. Then add the picture you selected. I’m grateful though. We would have called meta malware back when.

It’s not that clunky anymore. You can limit access to the library to pick media from and it’ll give you the full library with this message:

Limited Access to Your Library

"App" can only access the items that you select. The app can add to your library even if no items are selected.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by what »

bnjms wrote: post #36
dangus wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recent iOS versions have granular controls over library access to prevent this.

It isn’t nice to use though. You select your picture then when you need to add more you’ve got to go back into the settings for that app and select the picture. Then add the picture you selected. I’m grateful though. We would have called meta malware back when.

The built in camera roll widget lets you edit what pictures are allowed without going to settings. Maybe it’s a new change or the apps you use have a custom photo picker, I dunno.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by bigiain »

dylan604 wrote: post #18
alex1138 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook has, though, historically been less than honest about consent I bet "agree to" is "we clicked the box for you anyway"

Oops, we totally didn't mean to, but an undiscovered bug did not obey the check box and slurped in everything anyways.

"Somebody moved fast and broke things. We have no idea why they thought that was appropriate behaviour on production systems, it's completely against company policy."

It's surprising(not) how that class of error always seems to fall on the side of Facebook grabbing more data without consent, and never on the side of accidentally increasing user privacy.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by ashdksnndck »

alex1138 wrote: post #15
ashdksnndck wrote: post #8

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Facebook has, though, historically been less than honest about consent I bet "agree to" is "we clicked the box for you anyway"

Maybe you should get a job at The Verge!

I’m sure if you log the Facebook app’s network traffic on your phone and show that it uploads photos without you clicking on the agree button, they’ll happily publish an article about your findings.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by bigiain »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #19
alex1138 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook has, though, historically been less than honest about consent I bet "agree to" is "we clicked the box for you anyway"

Curious about accounts that have been deactivated/deleted.

Mine has been deleted for almost 10 years now. I fully assume they've retained and are mining every post I made, every photo I uploaded, and every interaction I ever had on FB, and are still using FB tracking pixels on every website running them to feed more data about me into my profile - and are not only selling that to advertisers but are now training their AI on it without consent at every opportunity.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by ashdksnndck »

bigiain wrote: post #43
dylan604 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oops, we totally didn't mean to, but an undiscovered bug did not obey the check box and slurped in everything anyways.

"Somebody moved fast and broke things. We have no idea why they thought that was appropriate behaviour on production systems, it's completely against company policy." It's surprising(not) how that class of error always seems to fall on the side of Facebook grabbing more data without consent, and never on the side of accidentally increasing user privacy.

How would you know? If Facebook has a bug that accidentally increases user privacy, does The Verge write an article about it?

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by bigiain »

toofy wrote: post #4

how long until we find out that the brand new government/palantir deal is using these photos as well against citizens? i give it a year or less.

I look forward to the schadenfreude I will feel when someone makes the right FOI request and we discover this "feature" was built by Meta at the request of the NSA or the FBI or some other government TLA.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by labster »

msgodel wrote: post #34
coef2 wrote: post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

From the very beginning Facebook has been an AI wearing your friends as a skinsuit. People are only just starting to notice now.

Nah, not from the very beginning. Before the News Feed, The Facebook was great to find people and keep in contact. Following someone’s page too often was called Facebook stalking and was socially discouraged.

Unfortunately parasocial behavior is good for engagement.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by Aeolun »

pkkkzip wrote: post #30
ants_everywhere wrote: post #6

This is why I requested family not to post pictures of my children on Facebook. They will get to decide what to do with their likenesses when they're older. It seemed cruel to let Facebook train a model on them from the time they were babies until they first start using social media in earnest.

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They can use Facebook however they want. They just can’t upload pictures taken of other people without consent. That has nothing to do with Facebook and everything with generally applicable laws.
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