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Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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99.87% of Americans do not have a sense of their own culture. 99.87% dual citizens do (especially three countries you listed). Iranians are raised to know they are Iranians not from fucking Oklahoma

>"99.87% of Americans do not have a sense of their own culture" Where'd you get that figure?

5 decades of experience :)

Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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This is decidedly not equivalent to those things, even roughly. Interpreting a statute (which by the way this Supreme Court has expressly limited, which is ironic given your comment) is quite different from interpreting an amendment to the Constitution. What you're describing is like saying a president can re-interpret the meaning of 'militia' in the 2nd amendment and start confiscating everyone's firearms because th…

> which is ironic given your comment With all due respect, what about my comment makes that ironic? I’m generally quite careful not to post if the only thing I have to offer is an opinion, and try to keep opinion out of it entirely. > What you're describing is like saying a president can re-interpret the meaning of 'militia' in the 2nd amendment and start confiscating everyone's firearms because they're not members o…

> what about my comment makes that ironic?

It sounds like they’re referring to this:

> This is roughly equivalent to the EPA or BATFE changing the way it interprets an longstanding statute in a new way — which, by the way, they do very frequently.

The recent Supreme Court ruling that overturned Chevron deference limited the ability of such organizations to interpret the law. If the law does not make it clear then it (now) must be interpreted by a judge. I assume the irony they are referring to is in thinking this Supreme Court would have ruled in a seeming contrary way in this case. (It is a bit ironic but is also beside the point, which I guess explains why they put it in a parenthetical.)

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> I believe birthright citizenship should be ended.

I am curious to understand why you take this position. Would you mind explaining your perspective?

Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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And yet here we are. This court has decided that Trump is a king and that’s pretty much it.

No, they decided that any particular federal judge is not King and that if there's going to be broad spread relief, there needs to be a class action suit brought, or that the supreme Court needs to step in.

I don't think the person you are replying to is necessarily referencing this recent particular case as you assume.

In 2024 SCOTUS injected new very very very very broad immunity from prosecution to all past, present and future presidents. Leading a violent insurrection apparently qualifies as a "presidential act"? They are indeed Kings now.

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>"The British burned the census records during the revolution. This doesn't happen anymore." LOL What? Destruction against governmental records doesn't happen anymore? I guess you can spare me for remembering Iraq's National Library being burned down twice in 2003, or Israel - which is on its newest genocidal bender and is now creating NEW fresh asylum seekers that this information will be relevant for - destroying m…

There is only the nation and identity. National identity isn't some cloak that you just hand out. Magic dirt isn't real.

>"National identity isn't some cloak that you just hand out. Magic dirt isn't real"

Goes the same between both ways. Nation Identity. Thanks for your replies.

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There is only the nation and identity. National identity isn't some cloak that you just hand out. Magic dirt isn't real.

>"National identity isn't some cloak that you just hand out. Magic dirt isn't real" Goes the same between both ways. Nation Identity. Thanks for your replies.

You say they are Indians or Soviets, not Americans.

Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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No, they decided that any particular federal judge is not King and that if there's going to be broad spread relief, there needs to be a class action suit brought, or that the supreme Court needs to step in.

I don't think the person you are replying to is necessarily referencing this recent particular case as you assume. In 2024 SCOTUS injected new very very very very broad immunity from prosecution to all past, present and future presidents. Leading a violent insurrection apparently qualifies as a "presidential act"? They are indeed Kings now.

I absolutely was referencing the court’s ruling on Friday. The court has explicitly stated that injunctive relief is no longer available. The president can now strip away the rights of any citizen, and only those with the ability to fight in courts can challenge this action.

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5 decades of experience :)

So, nonsense. Cheers

name one thing that is part of “american culture” (other than bringing military to football games which only countries like north korea do), I’ll wait… :)

Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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So, nonsense. Cheers

name one thing that is part of “american culture” (other than bringing military to football games which only countries like north korea do), I’ll wait… :)

Cheers for admitting your ignorance and willing to expand on it, and showing you haven't been a member of the national identity (which is THE ONLY ONE in the world where most of its members believe ANYONE can assimilate to, regardless of untenable characteristics):

- Food: American Barbecue, desserts (root beer float, sopapillas, cupcakes, most pies, milkshakes) comfort foods (clam chowder, cornbread, banana bread, cornbread), breakfast (pancakes, hashbrowns), dinner dishes (crab, lobster, turkey, fried chicken)

- Ways of Eating Food: Tailgating, Cookouts, Drive-Thrus, Clam Bake

- Sports: American Football, Hockey, Pickleball, Lacrosse, Baseball, Basketball, Motorsports (Nascar, Indy), Skateboarding and Snowboarding

- Holidays and Celebrations: Thanksgiving, Fourth of July, Presidents Day, Memorial Day as a colloquial "start" of Summer and all the events in it, Labor Day as a colloquial "end" of Summer and all the events in it, Black Friday

- Technology: The pioneer in modern technology, from Silicon Valley to patent protections worldwide

- Military: Being exceptionalist in a Pax Americana era, being proud of our military and our might on the world stage - even at the expense of our own socialization (B2 bomber compilation with the text "Russia/China/Iran is about to see why we don't have free healthcare")

- Media: America is by far the world's largest exporter of culture with its reign on TV, movie, and music popularity and influence worldwide. If that's not culture to you, you're fundamentally disingenuous.

- Beliefs: Strong individualism ("the individual is the primary unit"), fundamental distrust in government and a shared collective identity in those against it, free-speech absolutism, the right of firearms to protect against real-danger and government tyranny, belief that there is "always better" and to strive for it with a "Can-Do" attitude, the idea that ANYONE can be American regardless of traits, while every other culture on Earth strongly conforms to their own - American has a unique embrace of all other cultures (which, itself, is a culture)

- Out-of-household activities and beliefs: Drive-In Movies, Road trips, out-of-household services has a huge belief on tipping

- Work-life: Strong meritocracy belief (those who work hard will be rewarded), first-name basis with equals and superiors, 9-to-5 identity, side hustles and multiple jobs

- Language: Regional dialects, no official language

It's clear those 5 decades haven't much to show for themselves.

Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order

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name one thing that is part of “american culture” (other than bringing military to football games which only countries like north korea do), I’ll wait… :)

Cheers for admitting your ignorance and willing to expand on it, and showing you haven't been a member of the national identity (which is THE ONLY ONE in the world where most of its members believe ANYONE can assimilate to, regardless of untenable characteristics): - Food: American Barbecue, desserts (root beer float, sopapillas, cupcakes, most pies, milkshakes) comfort foods (clam chowder, cornbread, banana bread, c…

I expected to read a whole lot of things here but root beer float killed me - thanks for this laugh mate :)
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