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Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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As the article's title notes, with strings attached .

Windows 10 came out almost 10 years ago and they offered a free upgrade to Windows 11. I know people love to hate on Microsoft, but they’ve done better than most technology companies when it comes to security updates here. You’re lucky to get even half of that length of support from most Android devices for example.

> a free upgrade to Windows 11

My very expensive tower PC can't "up"grade because it doesn't have a TPM 2.0 module. So unless Microsoft plans to give me a new CPU (and new mobo) it's not free for many users.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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I have to say that after switching to Windows 11, I don't hate it as much as I thought I would. I'm still a bit upset that they took away vertical taskbars from us, but some things like multi-GPU support is better than in Windows 10: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/what-is-ruining-dual-gpu-setups On the other hand, for whatever reason Windows 11 right now refuses to install updates (I think the logs complained about the…

An OS with electron components is just absurd. They laid off all the competent employees who knew how to write c++.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11.

53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

they don’t force you to use an online account

They make it close to impossible to install windows without making an account, you either need to mess around in the registry or run some weird Powershell commands in order to skip the account creation step. They do this because they know a non-technical person will just create an account instead. It's fucking bullshit and it is 100% intentional.

Actually, I discovered that, as long as the machine has a TPM and it is turned on, I can just set it (Win 11) up initially with a throwaway MS account. Then, I add local admin and user accounts and, using the admin account, I delete the MS account. I have done it many times now. It’s easier than all of the other crap trying to avoid that MS account.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

You might be seeing it in the same lens as macos for instance, but windows' model is fundamentaly different and that deadline is only for specific cases (that's why they can play the "sign up for backup and we'll expand your time" game) For instance Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 is officially supported until 2031. A ton of the devices inside these 53% have no need to move away from win 10 in any urgent way.

I'm seeing it in the lens of the stated goal mentioned in the article "Microsoft is still sticking to its guns in promoting Windows 11 upgrades"

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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> Microsoft will also extend a year of additional Windows 10 security updates to any users who opt into Windows Backup, a relatively recent Windows 10 and Windows 11 app that backs up some settings and files using a Microsoft account. Users can also opt into ESU updates by spending 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points, which are handed out for everything from making purchases with your Microsoft account to doing Bing searches.

Sometimes I wonder how far they'd have to go before people stopped putting up with their bullshit. This reads like something out of The Onion.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Microsoft announced that you can extend Windows 10 support if you enroll in Microsoft Backup or purchase “Microsoft Points.” Just think if they get printer manufacturers in on this, just to keep your ink cartridges “authentic” and up to date, and you can keep using Windows 10. And so on... It’s interesting/unsettling to extrapolate a dystopian future from these moves. Keiichi Matsuda’s short film “Hyper-Reality”: htt…

You don't purchase Microsoft points. You can purchase extra support with 1000 Microsoft points that you can easily get for free in like a week clicking on some links on Bing.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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I'd be happy to upgrade to 11 if they would let me. I'm running 10 on a powerful, expensive PC that 11 won't accept.

I've had nearly perfect success using the setup command line argument to install as "server". It says "Server" during the install but that's not what ends up being installed.

This has been patched out[0] of newer builds but a 24H2 install media will still work for an in-place upgrade.

[0] https://winaero.com/microsoft-has-patched-the-product-server...

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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As the article's title notes, with strings attached .

Windows 10 came out almost 10 years ago and they offered a free upgrade to Windows 11. I know people love to hate on Microsoft, but they’ve done better than most technology companies when it comes to security updates here. You’re lucky to get even half of that length of support from most Android devices for example.

I don't really blame Microsoft for stopping updates. That's fine. But they're also preventing anyone else from doing any updates.

And no one said the situation with Android devices is great.

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