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US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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newsclues wrote: post #31
rafram wrote: post #15

Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44268547

While I don’t agree with them all the time, I find this sort of critique to be unfair and often are attempting to silence alternative media and viewpoints which is a disservice to journalism

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by el_benhameen »

autobodie wrote: post #39
max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

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I’m not sure how this is a valid reply to the parent? The government inducting favored titans of industry into the military for what certainly smells like a marketing/sales integration is hardly free market capitalism.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by seydor »

autobodie wrote: post #39
max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

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There are free markets outside america. Surprisingly, even in china

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by sitkack »

newsclues wrote: post #31
rafram wrote: post #15

Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44268547

While I don’t agree with them all the time, I find this sort of critique to be unfair and often are attempting to silence alternative media and viewpoints which is a disservice to journalism

It is an Ad hominem against the source w/o addressing the actual content of the article.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by westmeal »

el_benhameen wrote: post #43
autobodie wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I’m not sure how this is a valid reply to the parent? The government inducting favored titans of industry into the military for what certainly smells like a marketing/sales integration is hardly free market capitalism.

That's the joke he's trying to make

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by autobodie »

exe34 wrote: post #33
max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

> USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is. It's called fascism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_paramilitary

No, it's called capitalism — capital has the last word. As we have seen clearly, even Trump is overwhelmingly limited by the constraints of capital.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by stickfigure »

whatshisface wrote: post #22
rafram wrote: post #15

Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44268547

It'd probably be a stronger case if you could point out an inaccuracy in the article. In a sense it's implicit agreement to only criticise the identity of the source.

Dishonest sources can generate bullshit faster than honest people can debunk it. At some point you are obliged to dismiss consistently unreliable sources.

In fact, Wikipedia has already done this:

"The English Wikipedia formally deprecated the use of The Grayzone as a source for facts in its articles in March 2020, citing issues with the website's factual reliability."

(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone)

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by autobodie »

seydor wrote: post #44
autobodie wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There are free markets outside america. Surprisingly, even in china

No, there are not. That is very naive. None of them are independent from America's role as international peacekeeper/peacereeper and global financier.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by NHQ »

max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

Ranking civilians is a wartime measure.
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