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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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> This is .1% problems Cruises are a stereotypically mass-market vacation. In most cases they’re cheaper than a hotel.

But still, Google says there's about 30 million cruise passengers per year, or less than 0.4% of the world. Close.

> Google says there's about 30 million cruise passengers per year, or less than 0.4% of the world. Close.

By the same math owning a pet tortoise is something of a 0.1% game.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Went on a cruise last summer, the internet on board was starlink. It was advertised at $30/day.

It's interesting to contrast Starlink on airlines vs Starlink on cruises. AFAICT, all the airlines rolling out Starlink have made it free on their flights. Which implies cooperation from Starlink -- either Starlink has made "free" a condition of their service, or they've just priced it cheap enough to make free a reasonable option for airlines. There's no good reason why Starlink for cruise ships should be priced sig…

it's unclear to me why Starlink is free on airlines. I currently pay $30-50 per transoceanic flight for crappy internet. I'd pay 2-3X more for something solid with lower latency.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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on a recent trip, i stayed at a hotel that had a 1-hour free wifi trial per device. after it expired, i toggled mac randomisation and reconnected. worked again. did it four times, no issues. never paid.

later checked the captive portal domain. it was hosted by a third-party vendor. not the hotel. same pattern as cruises. backend didn’t care who i was, just tracked mac and time.

this blog just confirmed what i suspected: enforcement is surface-level. they want friction low enough to upsell, but not tight enough to annoy casual users. the systems are optimised for conversion, not for plugging leaks. most abuse is silent and tolerated. these aren't security flaws. they're tradeoffs

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

Unless you LOVE your work and just want a change of scene while doing what you love.

Just seems like a lot of expense that by working you're decreasing the value.

Also depends on who you're traveling with / anyone.

I've been on trips with the "I have to work" folks, it's a pain, they're not really "there" you end up trying to schedule around them. Then they just show up unaware / uninvolved in whatever is going on.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

Some people use cruises as a productive work retreat: https://tynan.com/cruisework/

But yeah, it's nice to be disconnected on vacation.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Went on a cruise last summer, the internet on board was starlink. It was advertised at $30/day.

It's interesting to contrast Starlink on airlines vs Starlink on cruises. AFAICT, all the airlines rolling out Starlink have made it free on their flights. Which implies cooperation from Starlink -- either Starlink has made "free" a condition of their service, or they've just priced it cheap enough to make free a reasonable option for airlines. There's no good reason why Starlink for cruise ships should be priced sig…

Cruises make most of their money now by upselling you on board. Premium drinks and drink cards, more premium restaurants while included buffet and dining room get less love; internet upgrade, excursions, lots of stores selling stuff like diamonds and overpriced fashion, art auctions. It's worse than a floating shopping mall.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #38

One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

What if you're a teenager, traveling with your family, and the internet is your lifeblood ? You can't gamble or go to the bar and you have no wife, so this sort of activity is respectable.

Then that's a sad story.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #38

One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

What if you're a teenager, traveling with your family, and the internet is your lifeblood ? You can't gamble or go to the bar and you have no wife, so this sort of activity is respectable.

Some of my best experiences as a teen were those that took me out of whatever bubbles I was in at the time.

Vacations are a great time for that.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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I did something similar at the Zürich airport and gained access to a second four hour window of free wifi. You had to bind your MAC to your identity either via SMS or via boarding pass, two independent channels. Only problem was that I only had an android phone without root. So I disabled MAC randomization for that wifi, deleted the cookie, and signed up via boarding pass. Never felt more like a hacker (and I hacked dozens of active directory domains to domain admin on my job).
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