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Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by neepi »

Clamchop wrote: post #27
999900000999 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My thoughts exactly. This is a bizarre article. The elephant in the room is on the lower end most mid-range phones will beat a digital camera under 300$. I wouldn't give a kid an expensive camera. Kids drop things. If you give Junior an 850$ camera and he loses it that's on you. Then again, this is HN. Maybe he makes 700k TC per year and money is no object. Even then he admits for a few hundred more you can get a muc…

Price sensitivity re: children and breaking things is going to depend on financial situation and intention. This is a person that shoots a $10k Leica, so I'm going to guess there's more than enough money and a strong intent to share an "authentic" photography experience (a camera of traditional form) with their kids. The latter appears to be this camera's gimmick. They describe this camera as "cheap" even!

He should try some of the new ass end mirrorless cameras that are designed to be cameras and not fashion accessories. That might scare him off his Leica and this turd.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by neepi »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #40

It's so cute. I love the touch of analog on the rear display. I have a XPro3 myself, which was another line they tried these analog features on, and it has been a wonderful camera! If I had to upgrade, the X-E5 is the only other model that appeals to me for now. Also: iPhone cameras don't seem like they're ever going to replace a hard camera for me. They can take incredibly photos, but the processing is just so HDR h…

Yeah that. Phones are awful. I have an iPhone 15 Pro which is supposed to be quite good. It's not. I got so fed up with it I dug out my now ancient Nikon D3100 and took that around for a few days. Suprisingly it still works fine. It was incredibly better than the iPhone is which was painful. So I bought a new Nikon Z50ii mirrorless which is the indirect successor. Doubt I'll use a phone for anything again other than utility photography.

As for this thing in the article, urgh. Old cameras were designed badly and had poor ergonomics because of mechanical constraints. Why do we keep copying shitty old designs?!?

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by jcynix »

chamsom wrote: post #9

According to this essay, the options for his kids are a $50 toy "camera" and an $850 niche camera possibly targeted at people who usually own the $2,000 line of the same brand. Surely there's something in between? I can't help but wonder if this is a purchase for himself.

For kids, I'd buy a small used micro four thirds camera with a pancake lens. Cheaper and later expandable if they enjoy taking pictures.

Or, if it needs to be a zoomable lens, I'd look for some used (but well maintained) Digital Ixus or PowerShot.

With either of these they can learn much more about photography than with a toy camera.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by goblin89 »

999900000999 wrote: post #17
chamsom wrote: post #9

According to this essay, the options for his kids are a $50 toy "camera" and an $850 niche camera possibly targeted at people who usually own the $2,000 line of the same brand. Surely there's something in between? I can't help but wonder if this is a purchase for himself.

My thoughts exactly. This is a bizarre article. The elephant in the room is on the lower end most mid-range phones will beat a digital camera under 300$. I wouldn't give a kid an expensive camera. Kids drop things. If you give Junior an 850$ camera and he loses it that's on you. Then again, this is HN. Maybe he makes 700k TC per year and money is no object. Even then he admits for a few hundred more you can get a muc…

This picks apart image quality from an iPhone 15 Pro Max regarding noise and usable dynamic range: https://youtu.be/bSm3LXNF7pI?feature=shared&t=1360

For anything more than basic software-processed output and utility snaps or selfies, this high-end phone loses pretty terribly to an average hybrid consumer camera.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by jcynix »

lokl wrote: post #12

Used cameras and lenses can offer tremendous value.

Exactly. And the "sensor size myth" is nothing a kid should (or would) care about.

There are some very good YouTube channels talking about micro four thirds cameras, which are still a good choice, especially when used as a camera to carry every day.

Disclaimer, own and use full frame, APS-C, and even Ixus and Powershot cameras which all can produce decent images if one knows how and when to use them. Oh, smartphone, of course.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by moffkalast »

chamsom wrote: post #9

According to this essay, the options for his kids are a $50 toy "camera" and an $850 niche camera possibly targeted at people who usually own the $2,000 line of the same brand. Surely there's something in between? I can't help but wonder if this is a purchase for himself.

I would dare even say the provided examples from the camera are objectively worse than what a mid range smartphone could do 5 years ago with a sensor probably just a tenth of the size. So much low light noise, is that lens decorative or what?

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Post by 999900000999 »

neepi wrote: post #41
Clamchop wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price sensitivity re: children and breaking things is going to depend on financial situation and intention. This is a person that shoots a $10k Leica, so I'm going to guess there's more than enough money and a strong intent to share an "authentic" photography experience (a camera of traditional form) with their kids. The latter appears to be this camera's gimmick. They describe this camera as "cheap" even!

He should try some of the new ass end mirrorless cameras that are designed to be cameras and not fashion accessories. That might scare him off his Leica and this turd.

Leica is obviously social signalling.

He gets to let us know he REALLY cares about photography.

Photography is ultimately subjective anyway, if he feels a 10k camera worth it that's cool.

IMO if your new wait for a sale or buy someone else's failed ambitions off eBay. I'm no pro but plenty of very capable cameras can be had under 1000$. The lenses are the expensive parts

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