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Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by hk1337 »

anon7000 wrote: post #5

AI generated web content has got to be one of the most counterproductive things to use AI on. If I wanted an AI summary of a topic or answer to a question, a chatbot of choice can easily provide that for you. There’s no need for yet another piece of blogspam that isn’t introducing new information into the world. That content is already available inside the AI model. At some point, we’ll get so oversaturated with fake…

Depends on the web content. I've been using Claude to generate posts for things I am selling in Facebook Marketplace with good results.

Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by ysavir »

hk1337 wrote: post #41
anon7000 wrote: post #5

AI generated web content has got to be one of the most counterproductive things to use AI on. If I wanted an AI summary of a topic or answer to a question, a chatbot of choice can easily provide that for you. There’s no need for yet another piece of blogspam that isn’t introducing new information into the world. That content is already available inside the AI model. At some point, we’ll get so oversaturated with fake…

Depends on the web content. I've been using Claude to generate posts for things I am selling in Facebook Marketplace with good results.

What do you feel sets this apart from the rest?

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Post by vouaobrasil »

raincole wrote: post #27
anon7000 wrote: post #5

AI generated web content has got to be one of the most counterproductive things to use AI on. If I wanted an AI summary of a topic or answer to a question, a chatbot of choice can easily provide that for you. There’s no need for yet another piece of blogspam that isn’t introducing new information into the world. That content is already available inside the AI model. At some point, we’ll get so oversaturated with fake…

What we wish for: better search. What we got: more content polluting search, aka worse search.

I don't think better search is exactly what we want. It would also be great to have less quantity and more quality. I think optimizing only search to make it better (including AI) only furthers the quantity aspect of content, not quality. Optimizing search or trying to make it better is the wrong goal IMO.

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Post by bpodgursky »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #23
neya wrote: post #15

I can tell you this much - most people who are opposed to AI writing blog articles are usually from the editorial team. They somehow believe they're immune to being replaced by AI. And this stems from the misconception that AI content will always sound AI, soul-less, dry, boring, easy to spot and all that. This was true with ChatGPT-3xx. It's not anymore. In fact, the models have advanced so much so that you will hav…

Counterpoint: GPT-4 and later variants, such as o3 and 4.5, have such a characteristic style that it's hard not to spot them. Em dashes, "it's not just (x), it's (y)," "underscoring (z)," the limited number of ways it structures sentences and paragraphs and likes to end things with an emphasized conclusion, and I could go on all day. DeepSeek is a little bit better at writing in a generic and uncharacteristic tone, b…

If you ask them to speak in a different voice, they will. It's only characteristic if the user has made no effort at all to mask that it is AI generated content.

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Post by [deleted] »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #36
stanford_labrat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always thought of these VC fueled expeditions to nowhere as the opposite. Wealth transfer from the owning class to the middle class seeing as a lot of these ventures crash and burn with nothing to show for it. Except for the founders/early employees who get a modest (sometimes excessive) paycheck.

Can VC's get their funding from mutual funds and pension plans?

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Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by hinkley »

stanford_labrat wrote: post #32
elzbardico wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The joys of wealth transfer from the poor and the middle class workers to the asset owning class via inflation and the Cantillion Effect [1]. 1- https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-cantillion-effect

I've always thought of these VC fueled expeditions to nowhere as the opposite. Wealth transfer from the owning class to the middle class seeing as a lot of these ventures crash and burn with nothing to show for it. Except for the founders/early employees who get a modest (sometimes excessive) paycheck.

I think the chilling effect on mom and pop businesses undoes all of that. When they (we) disrupt and industry the power consolidates but in new hands. The idea is to get it away from the entrenched interests but like a good cultural revolution the second tier ends up in charge when the first tier gets beheaded.

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Post by 9rx »

jerf wrote: post #25
anon7000 wrote: post #5

AI generated web content has got to be one of the most counterproductive things to use AI on. If I wanted an AI summary of a topic or answer to a question, a chatbot of choice can easily provide that for you. There’s no need for yet another piece of blogspam that isn’t introducing new information into the world. That content is already available inside the AI model. At some point, we’ll get so oversaturated with fake…

This is the fundamental reason why I am in favor of a ban on simply posting AI-generated content in user forums. It isn't that AI is fundamentally bad per se, and to the extent that it is problematic now, that badness may well be a temporary situation. It's because there's not a lot of utility in you as a human being basically just being an intermediary to what some AI says today. Anyone who wants that can go get it…

> It's because there's not a lot of utility in you as a human being basically just being an intermediary to what some AI says today.

To be fair, there has never been a lot of utility in you as a human being involved, theoretically speaking. The users do not use a forum because you, a human, are pulling knobs and turning levers somewhere behind a meaningless digital profile. Any human involvement that has been required for the software to function is merely an implementation detail. The harsh reality, as software developers continually need to be reminded of, is that users really don't care about how the software works under the hood!

For today, a human posting AI-generated content to a forum is still providing all the other necessary functions required, like curation and moderation. That is just as important and the content itself, but something AI is still not very good at. A low-value poster may not put much care into that, granted, but "slop" would be dealt with the same way regardless of whether it was generated by AI or hand written by a person. The source of content is ultimately immaterial.

Once AI gets good, we'll all jump to AI-driven forums anyway, so those who embrace it now will be more likely to stave off the Digg/Slashdot future.

Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by rightbyte »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #36
stanford_labrat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always thought of these VC fueled expeditions to nowhere as the opposite. Wealth transfer from the owning class to the middle class seeing as a lot of these ventures crash and burn with nothing to show for it. Except for the founders/early employees who get a modest (sometimes excessive) paycheck.

Can VC's get their funding from mutual funds and pension plans?

I think that is the 'find bag holders' part of the plan?

Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by tartoran »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #43
raincole wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What we wish for: better search. What we got: more content polluting search, aka worse search.

I don't think better search is exactly what we want. It would also be great to have less quantity and more quality. I think optimizing only search to make it better (including AI) only furthers the quantity aspect of content, not quality. Optimizing search or trying to make it better is the wrong goal IMO.

Better search implies separating the wheat from the chaff. Unfortunately SEO spam took over and poisoned the whole space.

Re: Anthropic's AI-generated blog dies an early death

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Post by tartoran »

echelon wrote: post #6
anon7000 wrote: post #5

AI generated web content has got to be one of the most counterproductive things to use AI on. If I wanted an AI summary of a topic or answer to a question, a chatbot of choice can easily provide that for you. There’s no need for yet another piece of blogspam that isn’t introducing new information into the world. That content is already available inside the AI model. At some point, we’ll get so oversaturated with fake…

Using AI generated content to mass-scale torpedo the web could be a tool to get people off of Google and existing social media platforms. I'm certainly using Google less and less these days, and even niche subreddits are getting an influx of LLM drivel. There are fantastic uses of AI, but there's an over-abundance of low-effort growth hacking at scale that is saturating existing conduits of signal. I have to wonder i…

> Using AI generated content to mass-scale torpedo the web could be a tool to get people off of Google and existing social media platforms.

How? Fill the web with AI generated content or just using LLMs to search for information? As more junk is poured into training LLMs this too will take a hit at some point. I remember how great the early web search was, one could find from thousands to millions of hits for request. At some point it got so polluted that it became nearly useless. It wasn't only spam that made is less useful, it was also the search providers who twisted the rules to get them to reap all the benefits.

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