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4-7-8 Breathing

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Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#41
Plum Village (a Buddhist community founded by Thich Nhat Hanh) has a free app with hours and hours of different kinds of breathing and other types of meditation. They also upload meditations regularly on their youtube.

This web page also has some good resources and breathing meditations. https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/mindfulness-practice

Highly recommend

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#42
post #27

This may be a stupid question, but why do we need to exercise breathing? We do it all the time anyway, shouldn't we be pretty good at it by now?

People run, walk, and do all sort of things wrong even though they "practice" them daily

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#44
post #26

Easily one of the worst UI's I've seen since 2020. Timing the initial in/exhales is tricky, because the circle contracts, not to its center, but to a nearly invisible (on my screen at least) smaller circle in the middle. No visible counters. After a while, it just says "Hold". No indication that we're done. And I sit there, almost dying for 2 minutes before realizing, that it's done some kind of quiet-quitting routin…

Same - I kept holding and holding. I am now writing this from my grave.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#45
post #15

There are lots of different ways to do this. The important thing for anyone wanting to get started is just to get started and not get hung up on which one you're doing. Box breathing, Wim Hof method, etc, are all great and any breathwork is better than none. For an intro to the topic, James Nestor's Breath is excellent.

Every time I try breathwork (be it box or x-y-z) I feel that the intervals are too long - by the time I finish breathing out my brain goes into panic mode and the next breath is not enough to compensate. I find them the exact opposite of relaxing.

You can begin with an easier pattern…

Breathing through the nose, in for a count of three and out for five, then repeat.

As long as the outbreath is longer than the inbreath, you will get some effect.

Could also try relaxing first by massaging the Vagus nerve. An easy way to start with that is to massage in a circular motion the skin area in front of the Tragus (front skin flap) on each ear.

You can combine that with the measured breathing for added effect. They both stimulate the Parasympathetic nervous system.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#46
post #33

I see one problem in the UX. When breathing out you cannot see where the circle will stop so it is difficult to mentally plan this phase of the cycle.

Also, there's no 'ding' at the point the breath-out stops and the next breath-in cycle begins.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#47

I used it and the timer stopped when I was in the Hold command. Am I allowed to exhale? I think the timer should be a multiple of the time to complete one full cycle, ending on an exhale.

Same thing happened to me

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#48
post #27

This may be a stupid question, but why do we need to exercise breathing? We do it all the time anyway, shouldn't we be pretty good at it by now?

For me, it was playing a musical instrument (transverse flute, then shakuhachi) that showed me that I really don't know how to breathe deeply with my diaphragm. Or, that I wasn't aware of it at all, now my breathing is more conscious, and I tend to focus on it many times, for example, when I'm just walking on the street. Concentrating on your breath is a great way to stay rooted in the present and become aware of your thought processes. Breathing is magical :)

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

#50

I feel the 4-7-8 is more natural than box breathing the length seems to align more with the natural breathing without constraining it to fixed length. I feel like exhaling takes usually longer than inhaling

I feel the opposite. Especially the part about NOT breathing for 7 (!) seconds, which doesn't feel naturall at all. Something like 4-2-5 would have been much closer to my natural. To me the benefit of this thread is the comments recommending other apps/methods.
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