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The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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isn't this a copied and pasted version of the one in Texas that Louis Rossmann talked about in his video ( https://youtu.be/C_ohgeWKcOY ) ? With the same loophole, i.e., selling assembly parts meaning screen with hinge and camera etc(expensive). instead of just the display(cheap). Apparently, there is one slight variation > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44182235

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Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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Companies like John Deere have way overplayed their hand, and I'm glad to see the regulatory winds are changing.

This law does not apply to tractors or game consoles. It's neutered as all fuck. From the article: Of course, these wins come with carve-outs. HB 1483 exempts: Video game consoles Medical devices Motor vehicles Agricultural and construction equipment Security systems and alarm equipment Internet and TV equipment from ISPs Off-road recreational vehicles Large-scale energy storage and solar gear Low earth orbit broadba…

Everything you listed is what the typical Washington resident will WANT to repair. How is this law even worth celebrating? And how did these companies obtain these exemptions?

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post #24

Will companies be forced to design products that can be repaired in any state? Or are there ways they can still restrict repairs for states without right-to-repair laws?

What if I buy in WA, from a WA store and a WA manufacturer but live in ID?

It'll follow WA laws. You could live on the moon for all anyone would care, if the sale is in WA, it's covered by WA laws.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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post #23

I might need an ELI5 here. "Right to repair" as in "right to choose someone who repairs"? Don't think anyone stops you from repairing your own stuff yourself.

It's purpose is to legally force other companies to serve the interests repair shops over consumers. Instead of letting the free market, consumers, dictate what aspects of a device are important repair shops want to be able to profit off of every device and stay relevant even if it results in worse products for the consumer.

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https://www.ifixit.com/News/110039/double-trouble-for-repair... Come January 1, 2026, manufacturers must also stop using parts pairing to block repairs for these devices. That means no more pop-ups that say “unknown part” when you swap in a working screen. No more downgrading your camera or fingerprint sensor just because you repaired your own phone. SB 5680 goes even further for wheelchair users. It covers power whe…

Nice! That had gotten extremely ridiculous to the point where I've been actively avoiding new consumer products just because maintaining them is such a hassle.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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post #23

I might need an ELI5 here. "Right to repair" as in "right to choose someone who repairs"? Don't think anyone stops you from repairing your own stuff yourself.

It's purpose is to legally force other companies to serve the interests repair shops over consumers. Instead of letting the free market, consumers, dictate what aspects of a device are important repair shops want to be able to profit off of every device and stay relevant even if it results in worse products for the consumer.

The free market arguably hasn't worked like that in ages.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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post #25

> a soldier struggling with a broken generator Are there generators you can't fix right now? I assumed most of them are pretty basic designs, an ICE with either an inverter or non-inverter generator. You can look up how to tear them down and repair them step by step on YouTube (including commercial units)

Commercial Tier 4F diesels of the John Deere variety have latching fault codes when they relate to the aftertreatment system. It requires the manufacturer's proprietary scan tool (which they will not sell to you) to clear the code, even if the actual issue was something as simple as a connector left unplugged for too long.

Requiring proprietary dongles/software to clear fault codes are not uncommon, but I'm surprised there hasn't been enough interest for there to be a 3rd party tool.

Like McDonald's Shake Machines had a 3rd party tool to help diagnose issues.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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https://www.ifixit.com/News/110039/double-trouble-for-repair... Come January 1, 2026, manufacturers must also stop using parts pairing to block repairs for these devices. That means no more pop-ups that say “unknown part” when you swap in a working screen. No more downgrading your camera or fingerprint sensor just because you repaired your own phone. SB 5680 goes even further for wheelchair users. It covers power whe…

Here is the bill for consumer electronics: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=1483&Year=202... Text as passed (for pasting into LLM :)): https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/Ho... I wondered what it would mean for small manufacturers and they are not exempt however o3 believes "in practice, your duty is limited to providing whatever service manuals, firmware-pairing utilities, and spa…

Getting parts at cost?

So I could find some manufacturer using a part I want and order it at their cost rather than having to go to a retailer?

Is there anything that allows a manufacturer to require you send in the broken part after or any limit to how many times something can be "repaired"? Because I'd like to purchase a very large number of NVIDIA GPUs at cost.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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https://www.ifixit.com/News/110039/double-trouble-for-repair... Come January 1, 2026, manufacturers must also stop using parts pairing to block repairs for these devices. That means no more pop-ups that say “unknown part” when you swap in a working screen. No more downgrading your camera or fingerprint sensor just because you repaired your own phone. SB 5680 goes even further for wheelchair users. It covers power whe…

Here is the bill for consumer electronics: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=1483&Year=202... Text as passed (for pasting into LLM :)): https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/Ho... I wondered what it would mean for small manufacturers and they are not exempt however o3 believes "in practice, your duty is limited to providing whatever service manuals, firmware-pairing utilities, and spa…

Very interesting, there's a carveout for video game consoles:

> Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to require any original manufacturer or authorized repair provider to make available any parts, tools, or documentation required for the diagnosis, maintenance, or repair of a video game console and its components and peripherals.

Wonder if Valve/Xbox/Nintendo asked for that, this being Washington State.

Re: The Right to Repair Is Law in Washington State

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Will companies be forced to design products that can be repaired in any state? Or are there ways they can still restrict repairs for states without right-to-repair laws?

They will do a cost-benefit analysis, I'm sure, but most likely it'll just turn into small businesses not selling in the restrictive states, and large companies making different versions. One of the versions will probably be better in almost every way except lack of right-to-repair compliance.
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