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Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#41

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With neon being bought by databricks, serverless Postgres tech has effectively disappeared from the market.

What do you mean by this? Neon is still operating the same service. Source: I work there.

Oh my bad! I was under the (evidently mistaken) impression that since they were bought by databricks they would just become a part of that and cease to be.

Evidently, I was very wrong, which I’m glad to hear tbh.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#42

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I read this as "buying potential competitors off the market" right? Less ability for customers to roll-their-own => more customers for Snowflake?

With neon being bought by databricks, serverless Postgres tech has effectively disappeared from the market.

There is also this one from Supabase: https://www.orioledb.com/

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#43
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If everyone in this sector is getting lucrative acquisitions, that should encourage more copycats.

I feel like the history of anti-trust regulation in America has something to say about that...

That only works if there are moats that discourage new entrants (e.g., buying a social media upstart works because of the network effect).

Not obvious serverless postgres is in that category.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#44
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It's interesting that Snowflake went shopping for Crunchy Data over Neon. While Neon focused on bringing compute and storage separation to OLTP, Crunchy Data focused more on bringing OLTP/PostgreSQL closer to OLAP with DuckDB and Iceberg. In a way, Crunch Data was a competitor to Snowflake as they literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong. Neon sounds more complementary to S…

Neon acquisition was ~$1B.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#46
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I think $250M is fairly low. Must be a good deal for snowflake.

With Neon going to Databricks, the pool of potential buyers dramatically shrank.

That's such a wild way to view this. I see this the opposite way: the pool of incredibly awesome fantastic postgres technology companies who are uniquely top of the game was down to very very very few.

The musical chairs here is who can get such long proven incredible fantastic well knowing talent. Who can snarf it up & convince these incredible doers to fold into the amorphous indistinct corporate giant.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#48

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One good reason is that a huge population of companies just don't have enough data to justify Snowflake. We sell a product built on it, and I wish we'd had DuckDB 3-4 years ago; it's perfect for 95%+ of our clients

I think DuckDB is great but I don't think it is necessarily playing the same game as Snowflake. A lot of people want the serverless option and DuckDB is not that.

DuckDB on a lambda/serverless python function wrapper or in WASM (for client-side workloads) is as stateless and serverless as you can get.

In that case BigQuery is more managed than both, PAYG for analytical queries without thinking about compute nor clusters whatsoever.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

#49
post #28

It's interesting that Snowflake went shopping for Crunchy Data over Neon. While Neon focused on bringing compute and storage separation to OLTP, Crunchy Data focused more on bringing OLTP/PostgreSQL closer to OLAP with DuckDB and Iceberg. In a way, Crunch Data was a competitor to Snowflake as they literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong. Neon sounds more complementary to S…

We don't know that Snowflake didn't miss out on neon - seems plausible (and silly for neon to not run an acquisition by Snowflake)
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