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If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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I have always been useful not valued, worked at 8 or more places. Only people who value me are family. Businesses don't. You find out pretty quick: suddenly on PIP, or get bullied thereafter because you phrased something slightly off in a Jira comment. If I can get paid and treated OK, I see that as good. Don't put stock in business relationships. Try to have good ones but put stock in ... assets, family, health, etc…

I've heard what you're describing phrase as follows:

"If you want to know who truly values you, look for the people who would not be able to replace you with someone else."

That usually has us pointing to friends and family, with the odd exception.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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I have always been useful not valued, worked at 8 or more places. Only people who value me are family. Businesses don't. You find out pretty quick: suddenly on PIP, or get bullied thereafter because you phrased something slightly off in a Jira comment. If I can get paid and treated OK, I see that as good. Don't put stock in business relationships. Try to have good ones but put stock in ... assets, family, health, etc…

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Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

#43
It takes some guts to be in management, but being a good worker-bee will only get you so far. You have to know how to work with others, you have to be able to make critical decisions at the right moment. Not everyone has the talent for it. And if you don't have it, you don't have it. Will you, as this author has described, find a comfortable position in life, be able to afford whatever you need? Absolutely. And you'll never have to be responsible for impactful decisions; you'll never have to fire anyone.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

#44

Why does this not create an arbitrage opportunity to pick the useful ones who are not valued if you are a CEO or manager?

I presume there is said opportunity, after all that's what company-hired "headhunters" are for.

But you also need to find people who are useful, undervalued (in the sense of the article, not in the sense of pay), and who are also willing to take the risk of jumping into a new environment even if that's uncomfortable at first. That means they need somehow to check that they'll be really valued at the new place, not just given a fancy title but no real decision-making involvement.

My guess is there's a positive correlation between useful-but-not-valued people and ones who are risk-averse and/or not the best social climbers, because the people who are both technically and socially brilliant or risk-taking are either valued already, or have already left your organisation.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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water is useful. Diamond is valued. So be the diamond, not the water. Unless there's no water around anymore...

From King Solomon's Mines, there's a line from the indigenous "bad witch" when she's trapped the protagonists in the jewel hoard cave - something like "What will white man to with the jewels now? Eat them, perhaps?"

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

#46
“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental clarity and strength of nerve necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is both stupid and hardworking; he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always only cause damage.“ - General and Commander-in-Chief Weimar Republic https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Hammerstein-Equord

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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Valued = useful + hard to find. The more rare you are, the more you are valued. You still have to be useful to be valuable though. In order to acquire those rare skills, an ungodly amount of work is often required. It is also a huge variable. A rare skill today can become useless tomorrow. Also, beware of indispensable people. "This company needs me" can have all sorts of causes. Maybe you didn't documented things ri…

> Valued = useful + hard to find.

I agree, but I think it slightly differently, Valued = useful + hard to replace.

How difficult is to be replaced by some other human or a machine.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

#50
I used to recognize this at my last job, pay was good but left searching for other opportunities where I felt valued in a team.

Two years later and I've about burned through all my savings looking for any job at all. Seems like current market has decided my skills and connections are not enough. Fixing to just uber or something next month out of desperation. I used to make six figures.

Turns out I decided to quit at the absolute worst time. I may not have been valued socially at the last gig but I felt somewhat useful. Nowadays enough time has passed and I no longer feel valued nor useful. The distinction fails to make any difference when the threat of losing it all constantly looms over you.

If I could I would go back in time and berate my self to keep that job at all costs and remain valueless, instead of insist grass is greener for some nebulous quality of "valued". Some things like health insurance are just more important than some intangible ideas of being valued or not by higher ups I won't really understand.

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