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Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

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Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#41
"It was also influenced by the educational level of the parents, a higher rate of success being associated with fewer years of education attained by mother and father combined."

This seems counterintuitive to me. A LOWER educational level of the parents correlated to a HIGHER rate of success of escape, it seems.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead, the scientists designed a very small, rather dense, playhouse. It looked just like a normal kid's playhouse, except that it was the exact dimensions of the average home fridge. Not only that, the house was equipped with an infrared camera on the top, which took videos of the kid while they were inside, while at the same time keeping it dark, like it would be in a fridge with the door shut. It should also b…

Replace "discomfort" with "trauma", especially once they find out that their parents heard them crying but decided not to come.

Not quite the Tuskegee Experiment.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "discomfort" with "trauma", especially once they find out that their parents heard them crying but decided not to come.

Not quite the Tuskegee Experiment.

This isn't the worst thing ever, therefore it's not bad? Apt handle, pessimizer.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#44

"It was also influenced by the educational level of the parents, a higher rate of success being associated with fewer years of education attained by mother and father combined." This seems counterintuitive to me. A LOWER educational level of the parents correlated to a HIGHER rate of success of escape, it seems.

Let it change your intuition. It will make you look at people differently.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#45

a higher rate of success being associated with fewer years of education attained by mother and father combined. Tell me more - is that statistically significant? Causes? Related to Reading age? The bit that worries me is the percentage of children who locked in the fridge just waited and cried.

Pure speculation: could be that poor kids were more likely to have dealt with similar problems or even just to have dealt with similar levels of suffering, and therefore respond with a little more short-term resilience. Not like anyone can do follow-ups on this research any more.

>>Not like anyone can do follow-ups on this research any more.

A modest proposal:

Places like Syria seems to not only torture dissidents but also their children -- and the regime need cash because of all the sanctions.

The Syrian Bath party was even inspired by the nazis, so there is precedent for getting experimental data.

(Sorry about this, sometimes my humor disgusts me too.)

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#46
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead, the scientists designed a very small, rather dense, playhouse. It looked just like a normal kid's playhouse, except that it was the exact dimensions of the average home fridge. Not only that, the house was equipped with an infrared camera on the top, which took videos of the kid while they were inside, while at the same time keeping it dark, like it would be in a fridge with the door shut. It should also b…

Replace "discomfort" with "trauma", especially once they find out that their parents heard them crying but decided not to come.

Please. As if no emotionally healthy kid ever spent more than three minutes alone in the dark, after waking from a nightmare for instance. And why the hell would they find out? A post-study review in which they are told "mommy and daddy hate your guts"?

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#47
Since it was in the 50's we really have no idea just how statistically accurate this study is. For example, they may not have had a equal spread of income levels. Most of the participants may have been poor and there may have been only one or two high income families involved. Such a small sample would not give reliable results. However if the study did have an accurate cross sample of incomes, then perhaps the results indicate that some sort of education program is in order for children in well to do families.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "discomfort" with "trauma", especially once they find out that their parents heard them crying but decided not to come.

Please . As if no emotionally healthy kid ever spent more than three minutes alone in the dark, after waking from a nightmare for instance. And why the hell would they find out? A post-study review in which they are told "mommy and daddy hate your guts"?

It's not 3 minutes, it's 3 minutes after they're so emotionally worked up they're crying. Finding out that your parents heard you but just ignored you is going to make you trust them less. (How do you define "emotionally healthy"? I grew up in a really nice home but my brother and I still have some problems.)

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#49

a higher rate of success being associated with fewer years of education attained by mother and father combined. Tell me more - is that statistically significant? Causes? Related to Reading age? The bit that worries me is the percentage of children who locked in the fridge just waited and cried.

The generalization of statistics is relatively recent development in science. AFAIK, it happened during the 50's and 60's, probably at a different pace in different disciplines.

Re: Behavior of young children in a situation simulating entrapment in refrigerators

#50

"It was also influenced by the educational level of the parents, a higher rate of success being associated with fewer years of education attained by mother and father combined." This seems counterintuitive to me. A LOWER educational level of the parents correlated to a HIGHER rate of success of escape, it seems.

It's interesting how science works like that, right?
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