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Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

#41
Of course it could claim lives. Hopefully Prince has considered people have also likely died as a result of Cloudflare's repeating captcha which holds the next page in front of you like a carrot on a stick, never letting you know that you will be clicking that box forever.

I'm sure while someone's in the process of keeling over is the perfect time to arbitrarily scrutinize their connecting details. You need to contact your doctor ASAP. Okay, but did you neighbor have a virus last week? Is your neighborhood in your city more "problematic" than average? You may have forgot to check these details before you fell ill.

Cloudflare sites should come with a big banner warning all users their connection will be arbitrarily approved by an algorithm with chilling effects built in as dark patterns.

Last I checked, Cloudflare does basically no educating of customers how badly their website will be broken for users arbitrarily when they don't use the ISP or browser Cloudflare likes. No explanation for how many customers you will lose when your website can't be visited by someone who doesn't know how to change their IP, no explanation that if you're offering a critical service then Cloudflare will give that service thousands of tiny downtimes left unknown, the screams too quiet to carry the weight of a tech CEO worried about something similar.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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sounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea

I have yet to find a platform that is as comprehensive as Cloudflare.

Bot protection, waiting rooms, cheap static assets, WAF.

Odds are if you are running a popular platform, you need all of these things.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

#46
I see so many people in these threads always complain about Cloudflare or Google CAPTCHA loops.. but even when using Private Internet Access (one of the most abused VPNs), I rarely if ever got on a full-on loop. Maybe Google CAPTCHA made me solve 3 things instead of one. Cloudflare is always just a checkbox. And I have my Brave and Firefox profiles hardened.

I'm not saying you aren't experiencing this, but I am curious: what is your setup that Cloudflare and Google treat you with such suspicion / hostility?

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

#47

I was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on t…

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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #40
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

X is a minor player. Replace it with AWS

I meant for what it does. Is there anything even remotely comparable to twitter (outside of the PRC)?

Bluesky, Threads, mastodon, even reddit I guess even though it's more atomized into subreddits.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

#49
post #30
post #6

sounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea

Yeah. I think this is the elephant in the room. I keep stumbling upon "We need to verify you are a human" by Cloudflare in many sites around the web. Crazy.

Sadly including on my site that kept getting overwhelmed by bots this year. I didn’t know what else to do.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

#50
post #5

I live in Spain, while I find the whole "life-threatening" narrative a tad overblown: I agree these obnoxious blocks are unacceptable. Incredible how much power LaLiga is capable of wielding.

In a globalized internet, your health institutions websites may run through, or depend on (i.e. 3rd party sites, js dependencies, etc) going through Cloudflare. Or emergency services, or whatever. With enough players you go from a side possibility to a certainty.

Cloud flare even offers a CDN for npm libraries.

it feels like incapable "experts" are placed in position or authority for something like this to happen.

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