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> LLM should know when it regurgitates content from a specific site and page I dont think that's how LLMs work.
That's what Google does now for some of its AI search results. There's a link icon next to some of the answers.
The LLM should know when it regurgitates content from a specific site and page, that should be the new “pageview”. Me telling the LLM that I don’t want the first answer it gave me from a common site is the same as me going deep into Google search result page 10 (like the old days).
> LLM should know when it regurgitates content from a specific site and page I dont think that's how LLMs work.
Tl;dr* He claims ads were the original sin of the web, built for a human internet. For the coming agentic web where most browsing would be done by agents, he proposes a new protocol that has payments integrated into it. Specifically agents paying for accessing content using micropayments with stablecoins.
Also interesting to note that this is one of the most submitted articles of Stratechery to HN but gained no traction. Latest submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44073241
* A summary can also be found here: https://stratechery.com/2025/the-upheaval-coming-for-the-int...
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The big question is whether Google followed the content licensing, and if needed, paid for it.
I'm sure they did not, but the rich guys win, even if they do something truly illegal. If they would have respected the laws, OpenAI would not have been able to create AI models at all (as they are derivatives of copyrighted works). So it's pure piracy of content at scale. The same with Veo3. Is it beneficial to humanity ? Probably yes. Is it harmful to content creators ? Absolutely but in the long-term, they have li…
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The big question is whether Google followed the content licensing, and if needed, paid for it.
I'm sure they did not, but the rich guys win, even if they do something truly illegal. If they would have respected the laws, OpenAI would not have been able to create AI models at all (as they are derivatives of copyrighted works). So it's pure piracy of content at scale. The same with Veo3. Is it beneficial to humanity ? Probably yes. Is it harmful to content creators ? Absolutely but in the long-term, they have li…
The problem I see is that when everything is iterative, and you kill sustainable incentives for new views, innovation disappears.
Is like the movies. We will get all budget towards remakes and reboots, and little new would show up.
Being an 80s guy, I remember many new movies coming out every year, and when they stretched beyond 2 or 3 films, people frowned.
Back to the future, Indy (the good years), Rambo (first 3), lethal weapon. Cool gems came up too (Last action hero?Terminator) even in loaded fields like simple action movies…. Star Wars, 3 films. Matrix. bond was the exception.
Now? mission impossible (8 films at over 2h), fast and mediocre franchise (20 movies), Marvel and DC movies (3 movies shot 30 different times), and everything else is a reboot. Almost impossible for new ideas to get through.
We are killing culture, innovation and human spark for some companies to make a billion more. We are feeding like factory pigs from generic slop, and as the factories grow they kill fertile ground for those who wanted to eat something cleaner.
The fact that is happening does not mean it’s right. It’s just we are accepting mediocrity as our guiding principle at 0.01 USD a pop…
Ben Thompson's latest article deals with a possible solution to this issue: https://stratechery.com/2025/the-agentic-web-and-original-si... Tl;dr* He claims ads were the original sin of the web, built for a human internet. For the coming agentic web where most browsing would be done by agents, he proposes a new protocol that has payments integrated into it. Specifically agents paying for accessing content using micro…
Tying it to cryptocurrency just seems like it's even less likely to get your regular Joe to onboard to this scheme, so I can see why it's never gained wider interest.
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Also Chrome is basically useless as a money-making product without the google integrations. There's no way to monetize it without search and ad integrations.
Apple gets paid $20 billion per year to set Google as the default search engine in Safari...
Maybe off topic, but Ive always found strange people who comment on Google's monopoly by focusing on chrome. It seems obvious to me that the key to their dominance is that they both have control over how traffic is distributed to websites, and how those websites get paid for the traffic they get. Chrome and android are just nice to haves, but Google would still be a monopoly without them. I think if you wanna break u…
Also Chrome is basically useless as a money-making product without the google integrations. There's no way to monetize it without search and ad integrations.
Is going to print money like google ads? Probably not. Could it sustain the browser as a standalone business? Perhaps.
Ben Thompson's latest article deals with a possible solution to this issue: https://stratechery.com/2025/the-agentic-web-and-original-si... Tl;dr* He claims ads were the original sin of the web, built for a human internet. For the coming agentic web where most browsing would be done by agents, he proposes a new protocol that has payments integrated into it. Specifically agents paying for accessing content using micro…
People have been predicting micropayments replacing ads (with differing technology implementations) for decades at this point and it's never come to fruition, so is unlikely to be taken seriously now either. Tying it to cryptocurrency just seems like it's even less likely to get your regular Joe to onboard to this scheme, so I can see why it's never gained wider interest.
Honestly, some form of digital credits work just as well here IMO (barring regulatory hurdles). No crypto necessary.
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> LLM should know when it regurgitates content from a specific site and page I dont think that's how LLMs work.
You don’t think it can run one more iteration on its own output to provide attribution? They could even create a synthetic page view for the sources with an exclusive bot and not change anything about how things are done (the bot is told to visit the site registering a page view).
Please explain to me how an algorithm that takes a sequence of tokens and outputs a URL would work.