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Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by keyringlight »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #13
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #3

Dang, I thought he had built his own hardware. I'd still love to get a proper successor to the Sandisk Sansa Fuze, just with USB-C charging instead of its proprietary charging cable. There's plenty of "luxury" /audiophile MP3 players out there which cost in the hundreds of dollars, but that one was in the sweet spot of bang-for-your-buck music player that I could just use for listening to music on long plane rides et…

You have many options for DAP, unfortunately they are often android based. In some rare cases, they are either pure custom OS, or stripped down android device. I have a Cayin N3U, I hesitated a lot with some Hobby device as it's a small brick and Android, while the android interface is still too present for my taste, and a bit too large, I have no regret, I really wanted something dedicated, no Bluetooth, tube, porta…

There was a merge into Rockbox [0] last month with someone making their own hardware [1] primarily to run rockbox.

[0] https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/6510 [1] https://github.com/amachronic/echoplayer

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by mg »

miramba wrote: post #33
mg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traversing local directories is supported via the File System Access API in browsers these days: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64283711 It works nicely in Chrome on the desktop and on Android. Not sure how the situation is on iOS.

But unfortunately not on Safari respectively the iOS webview, which would have been mandatory for the author to use. If I am wrong, I‘d gladly take a solution. I think this is one of the main problems for PWAs: No good , platform-independent way to access the local file system. As in „pick once, access forever“. Edit: https://caniuse.com/native-filesystem-api Edit2: Just a few posts down: https://webamp.org/

I see.

That's a pretty big argument to go with an Android phone.

Being able to write your own tools in HTML is so nice.

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by kelthuzad »

>Even after the DMA Act in the EU, sideloading still isn’t fully open. EU users can now install apps from third-party marketplaces directly from a developer’s site, but only if that developer still enrolled in Apple’s $99/year program and agrees to Apple’s Alternative Terms. For personal/hobbyist use, this still doesn’t remove the 7-day dev build limitation.

Does Apple want to face a formal non-compliance judgment under the DMA, or is there another reason for Apple's blatant contempt of court with its refusal to properly and fully implement the mandated sideloading[1]?

[1] The Digital Markets Act (DMA) does mandate sideloading in Article 6(paragraph 4). It requires designated gatekeepers, which includes Apple for its iOS operating system, to allow for the installation and use of third-party apps and app stores. ( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2022/1925/oj/eng )

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by skydhash »

nexo-v1 wrote: post #29
boomer_joe wrote: post #20

Isn't VLC an option for playing local files and available in the App store? You could sync the folder with iCloud.

It is available, but the last time I tried it, I was only able to select specific audio files for import. I couldn't import the whole directory at once

There’s a VLC folder inside Files (iOS) where I dumped the library. The nice things is that it plays opus (my lossy format of choice).

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by tschumacher »

I built my own web app to listen to full albums while allowing me to take breaks and switch devices. I really like to listen to albums from front to back but I found that at least YouTube Music doesn't remember playback position and you can't just switch devices without pulling up the album again on the other device and finding the position where you left off. My web app lets me paste a URL that is then downloaded to the server using yt-dlp and can be streamed from there. It always remembers playback position so I can listen from the phone in my car and then continue on the laptop at work from where I left off. It also works great for adding mixes from other sources such as NTS Radio - one of my favorites.

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by mouse_ »

josefritzishere wrote: post #4

It's interesting that most/all of the available tools for playing digital music, a well-known and very popular activity... suck. Do we think that's enshittification or product managers misunderstanding the market? In a normal universe one might otherwise expect it to be saturated with options.

When billions of dollars are involved, never attribute to stupidity what could be adequately explained by malice.

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by busymom0 »

thorum wrote: post #38
matteason wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually surprisingly hard to get iOS Safari to keep playing audio with the screen off. When I made https://ambiph.one I ended up having to route everything through a MediaStreamAudioDestinationNode to trick Safari into thinking it's a livestream, which is apparently the only type of audio allowed to play in the background Minimal demo here if it's helpful for anyone: https://codepen.io/matteason/pen/VYwdzVV

The solution I found after approximately two months of struggling with this problem: you have to generate an audio file that is a few seconds of silence, play it on a loop, and play it at the same time as the actual audio file you want to play (via separate audio elements, or an AudioContext). Specifically I believe you need to make sure the silence is “playing” at track boundaries for the real audio, so there is nev…

Does iOS let you play multiple audio at the same time?

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by daoistmonk »

amiga386 wrote: post #17

I won't comment on the merits of this project, but I put my entire media collection, including all audio, in Jellyfin, and I find Finamp (available for Android and iPhone) to be convenient player, especially that it has easy download of entire albums, artists, etc. and "offline mode" you can toggle on so you can random-play whatever you've downloaded, even in places with no phone reception.

Thanks! Just tried Finamp and it works great!

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by busymom0 »

I personally use the Documents app by Readdle. I have the free version and have been using it to transfer and play audio files for like 3 years. Their audio player looks just like a music player and has all controls too.

You can transfer files to the app over wifi or even use files from the Files app.

Re: I Built My Own Audio Player

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Post by munificent »

josefritzishere wrote: post #4

It's interesting that most/all of the available tools for playing digital music, a well-known and very popular activity... suck. Do we think that's enshittification or product managers misunderstanding the market? In a normal universe one might otherwise expect it to be saturated with options.

It's enshittification.

Software for playing audio used to be great even with far fewer engineering resources going into them. That suggests the reason they are getting worse is deliberate and stems from a misalignment between what software users want and what the producers want.

Most music software companies today are two businesses joined together:

1. A software company that makes apps to let people listen to music.

2. A content licensing company that pays artists and record labels to give them access to music and let people listen to it.

If they were only #1 then they would be agnostic to what music people listen to and how much of it. WinAmp didn't give a damn how big your music library was, what songs you listened to, or how often, because that was entirely between you and your MP3 collection.

But, say, Spotify has to pay someone every time you listen to a song and how much they pay depends on what you listen to and how often. That gives them a direct, perverse incentive to build an app that routes you away from expensive audio you might prefer towards cheap stuff that eats up your time but doesn't cost Spotify as much.

That's why every single time I open the fucking Spotify app I see a wall of podcasts even though I have literally never listened to one and never will. They don't put them there for my benefit, but for theirs.

For Spotify, the end game is routing people towards eventually-AI-generated musak that they themselves own the licenses for because it's free for them. This is directly analogous to why Netflix is now constantly pimping their own often-shitty produced shows over movies you might actually prefer.

The reason we aren't saturated with options is that producing a media app without also having deals that give the app direct access to media to play dumps a lot of work back onto users and most users these days simply don't have a local media library or want to maintain one.

And spinning up a new app that does off content directly has huge startup costs. You need an army of lawyers to go out and negotiate deals with every record label out there, and those labels probably hate you out the gate since they are still salty about not making anywhere near as much money as they used to make when they sold CDs.

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