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“There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

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Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

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>I wonder what these Japanese diplomats were thinking as they sat, so far from home, having their portraits taken with cutting-edge gadgets by this bohemian weirdo. If only there was a detailed first-hand account of the diplomatic mission to Europe which details this exact trip that's been widely translated to most European languages and is widely available.

Not sure if this is sarcasm. I have no idea if this exists or not.

If it does exist, I would like to read it.

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#42
post #7

>The painter naturally visited Nadar’s studio fo a portrait; it captures an artist of fierce intelligence: As true as it might be in many cases, I've begun to think that there might be something fundamentally groady about basing assumptions of intelligence on appearance. A brief meeting is bad enough, but a single photo? It's poetic to think that they tell us more about a person than they do.

If you know how to smolder you're eyes, you're fiercely intelligent. If you don't, you might as well be chopping off hands in the Congo.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super interesting. I recently learned that a lot of foreigners moving to Germany find that Germans are staring. It’s called the German stare. I wonder if staring is a Germanic thing. https://www.zeit.de/campus/zeit-germany/2023/01/culture-face...

Pro tip for everyone else: start counting with your thumb. For some reason I don't quite understand, my pinky and ring fingers don't operate well independently of one another. This is an issue when counting on my fingers (or attempting a boy scout salute), so I've started counting 1,2,3 from the thumb, 4 with the thumb down and all four fingers up, and 5, of course, with all digits extended. (I could start counting a…

The pinkie and ring finger share a tendon - this is why they are weaker than the other fingers.

Or, at least that’s how it was explained to me as a kid learning to play the double bass. The standard technique is to use those two fingers together to press the string on the upper part of the fingerboard where the most strength is required.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#44

A related video series showing many places around the world in the 1900s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-UhDuKZ2OQ There's a lot of really interesting things to see there besides the sites themselves. The obvious one worldwide is that this is before the mass commercialization of clothing + planned obsolescence of such, which seems to have a very negative outcome. But one thing not so visible that's really interest…

The explanation I like is that the exposure times needed for photos back then meant you had to be absolutely still for maybe a full minute.

Maintaining a natural looking smile for that long is hard.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#45

>I wonder what these Japanese diplomats were thinking as they sat, so far from home, having their portraits taken with cutting-edge gadgets by this bohemian weirdo. If only there was a detailed first-hand account of the diplomatic mission to Europe which details this exact trip that's been widely translated to most European languages and is widely available.

Not sure if this is sarcasm. I have no idea if this exists or not. If it does exist, I would like to read it. https://xkcd.com/1053/

There's actually a youtube channel that has a bunch of excerpts from various trips to the west (and other cross cultural journeys), if you're interested in that sort of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPxCuIspWs

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#46

> Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I think I can see in his deadened, ambitious eyes the character that would later lead Leopold to inflict immense suffering on the people of the Congo for personal gain. The spark of humanity that you can see in the eyes of so many of Nadar’s subjects just isn’t there. Or maybe the author's perception is colored by what we know of this man.

Well yeah, that's why it has that disclaimer. Everyone knows there's an obvious bias there.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#47
post #15

A related video series showing many places around the world in the 1900s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-UhDuKZ2OQ There's a lot of really interesting things to see there besides the sites themselves. The obvious one worldwide is that this is before the mass commercialization of clothing + planned obsolescence of such, which seems to have a very negative outcome. But one thing not so visible that's really interest…

> how simultaneously stern everybody looks with no fake smiles or hidden gazes. People were willing to just stare at something or somebody odd FWIW, the fake smiles and hidden gazes, to me the least, were always a North American thing. In fact, in Switzerland we have its opposite, the infamous "Swiss stare" :-) https://www.newlyswissed.com/about-the-swiss-stare/

American smiles in photos are mostly not fake, fwiw.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

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post #47
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how simultaneously stern everybody looks with no fake smiles or hidden gazes. People were willing to just stare at something or somebody odd FWIW, the fake smiles and hidden gazes, to me the least, were always a North American thing. In fact, in Switzerland we have its opposite, the infamous "Swiss stare" :-) https://www.newlyswissed.com/about-the-swiss-stare/

American smiles in photos are mostly not fake, fwiw.

It is incredibly surprising to be told to smile when taking official photos in the US. I just couldn't understand the first time it happened at the DMV, the person kept saying "smile" and i'm like, wtf, why would i smile, this is an official photo for my driver's license.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#49

A related video series showing many places around the world in the 1900s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-UhDuKZ2OQ There's a lot of really interesting things to see there besides the sites themselves. The obvious one worldwide is that this is before the mass commercialization of clothing + planned obsolescence of such, which seems to have a very negative outcome. But one thing not so visible that's really interest…

> how simultaneously stern everybody looks with no fake smiles

They still have stern looks in photos back home in Asia. But when they immigrate to America, everyone starts smiling in photos.

My parents had a theory. They noticed that even in real life, Americans smiled more than back home. They think and I agree with them, that back home life is hard for most people and it is hard for people to put a smile on. Sometimes life is too hard for even a fake smile. And even if you have a pretty good life, you do not want to stand out by smiling, especially with a big smile that shows your teeth. People will mock you if you smile too much in photos.

In the US, life is easy, comparatively, people are happier and it is easy to smile. And if someone is unhappy, they still want to fit in, so they, at least, put a fake smile on.

And I think this can extend to older photos too. Back then life was harder and people did what was natural to them.

Re: “There are people who can see and others who cannot even look”

#50

I'm ashamed to say that while I enjoyed the article and particularly the photos, I still can't quite parse what "cannot even look" means; does not understanding what it means make me one?

Every "imbecile" can take a photo, but not everyone can do photography. Is basically what he meant.
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