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KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by cwbriscoe »

wormius wrote: post #36
cwbriscoe wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been playing with Cachy and Plasma in a VM and I am probably going to install that on my next PC build that I am planning. I am currently dual booting Ubuntu and Windows. I haven't logged into windows in over 6 months so I probably won't even setup dual boot with my next machine.

Using Cachy after testing some distros. I tried Nobara but it was too limited. Before this I've used Debian based distros (ubuntu, debian), Redhat/RPM (Redhat, Mandrake, OpenSuSe) and even Gentoo. So far I really like Cachy. It's been great for the bit of gaming I do. I had a bit of audio grief, but installing a different kernel seemed to have fixed the issue. Overall I'm pretty damn happy with it. It was much easier…

I also really like the BTRFS file system which I didn't know about until installing Cachy. I like the idea of being able to go to a snapshot before I messed something up or a system update did.

I figure if I ever need anything Windows related, I will just load windows in a VM. Gaming wise, mostly the only games you can't play on Linux are Windows games with root kit level anti-cheats. Not sure if that is a downside...

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by vitorgrs »

I really like KDE in general, and how full featured it is, but their design just feels dated compared to all modern OSes and other DMs on Linux...

The only reason why I'm a gnome user, it's because of that.

And yes, I know I can just customize, but everytime I try, it just make KDE more sluggish for some reason, and doesn't really feels natural.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by guappa »

alexey-salmin wrote: post #37
Narishma wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE 4 was the bad one, not 3.

Never understood that part really. I was using KDE 4 since 3.97rc2 (which wasn't easy to install and still had some glitches) and absolutely loved it.

It had a lot less features than kde3, all the semantic desktop stuff didn't work and kdepim didn't work either But they did run at 100% cpu very often.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by guappa »

gerdesj wrote: post #13
sureglymop wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be German as well.

English, Dutch and German are all ... Germanic. English is the weird one, except for the others.

If a word is the same in italian and in english, 99% of the times it doesn't have german origins.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by constantcrying »

vitorgrs wrote: post #42

I really like KDE in general, and how full featured it is, but their design just feels dated compared to all modern OSes and other DMs on Linux... The only reason why I'm a gnome user, it's because of that. And yes, I know I can just customize, but everytime I try, it just make KDE more sluggish for some reason, and doesn't really feels natural.

In general my feeling on the KDE design is that heavily outshines Windows, which consistently delivers some of the worst design work I have ever seen on a desktop.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by IshKebab »

vitorgrs wrote: post #42

I really like KDE in general, and how full featured it is, but their design just feels dated compared to all modern OSes and other DMs on Linux... The only reason why I'm a gnome user, it's because of that. And yes, I know I can just customize, but everytime I try, it just make KDE more sluggish for some reason, and doesn't really feels natural.

I agree, but also if they don't add a stupid hamburger menu I'm switching back to KDE!

Oh no I just checked and they also drank the kool-aid. Seems like you can turn it off at least.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by runsonrum »

cwbriscoe wrote: post #25
bdbenton5255 wrote: post #17

I use Arch and love KDE Plasma. It even has a blue light filter. Am never going back to Windows. KDE runs faster, looks nicer, does not have forced adware and telemetry. Great daily driver.

I have been playing with Cachy and Plasma in a VM and I am probably going to install that on my next PC build that I am planning. I am currently dual booting Ubuntu and Windows. I haven't logged into windows in over 6 months so I probably won't even setup dual boot with my next machine.

I too have been on CachyOS for 6 months, dual boot but have no need to boot into Windows.

I am running a modern PC (z790, i9-14400k, RTX 4070-Ti)

My main concern was gaming on Linux and I have been pleasantly surprised at the limited issues I have had -- only minor things.

I have recently played around with Gnome-boxes and seems to do the trick although it would be nice have GPU passthrough.

I love CachyOS and the Plasma DE and do not plan to return to Windows.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by r0uv3n »

vitorgrs wrote: post #42

I really like KDE in general, and how full featured it is, but their design just feels dated compared to all modern OSes and other DMs on Linux... The only reason why I'm a gnome user, it's because of that. And yes, I know I can just customize, but everytime I try, it just make KDE more sluggish for some reason, and doesn't really feels natural.

Have you tried Plasma 6 yet? To me it feels way more modern than Gnome.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by mrheosuper »

hxorr wrote: post #23

I hope they can come up with a solution integrated into KDE where you can have apps running on a VM but appearing as a native Kwin window... Would probably need a helper daemon running on guest OS. I know a similar thing has been done before but would be great to have upstream support from a major DE

Surprisingly Windows support this with their WSL2. It caught me off guard when i tried to run "nautilus" just for fun.

Re: KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager called “Karton”

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Post by adrianmsmith »

pram wrote: post #29
mhitza wrote: post #26

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None of the current solutions support this. Only if you fallback to X11 forwarding, but then it's not going to be seamless because it requires setup on guests. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, this was my conclusion last year when researching again this space (since we're talking about virtualization support, thanks again RedHat for deprecating SPICE /s). I've read that it's possible in Windows' RDP, but haven't f…

IIRC Parallels can/could do this (on a Mac anyway) but I can’t find the specific feature. You could like run Excel or something and it would be just the native Windows interface window, but on your MacOS desktop.

Parallels calls that "Coherence mode": https://kb.parallels.com/4670
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