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Re: Just use HTML

#41

Post by c03 » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:19 PM UTC

Fuck I hate this moronic regressionist mindset. If your project is too insignificant to benefit from a framework, then just don't use it? It has nothing to do with the technology, but everything to do with your piece of shit usecase.

Re: Just use HTML

#42

Post by simonw » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:19 PM UTC

TIL (from "Choose a week to question all your life choices") about:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/...

Weird that it's supported by mobile Safari but not desktop Safari (according to the support table). And not in Firefox yet.

Re: Just use HTML

#43

Post by criddell » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:19 PM UTC

tiahura wrote: post #29

The month picker doesn't function in FF 138.0.1 win64.

And the time picker has alignment issues on Chrome.

Re: Just use HTML

#44

Post by ratatoskrt » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:19 PM UTC

Why does this feel like an LLM's attempt at satire?

Re: Just use HTML

#45

Post by nartho » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:20 PM UTC

kyrylo wrote: post #2

Stop reinventing the wheel. The web was doing just fine before your bloated frameworks crawled out of the sewer.

This link has been posted a million times, and I'm always surprised by the reactions. Yes, for anything that is data driven, plain HTML is great. Maybe sprinkle some markdown on top of it but that's all you really need.

But is that the only use for the web ? Are we pretending that the internet is only a collection of articles ? How do you end up with Figma, Soundation or Tinkercad with just plain html ?

No you (probably) don't need nextjs with greensocks for your blog, but there are valid reasons why fancy frameworks or javascript might be needed. I think saying that plain HTML is all you need is as silly as saying that you should always use the latest framework in your project.

Re: Just use HTML

#46

Post by mdaniel » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:20 PM UTC

Sponsored content via a justfucking website. Bold move

Anyway, I am firmly in the "self-hosting modern Sentry is crazypants" camp, but https://telebugs.com/alternatives/glitchtip reads like a hit piece, and not a serious "but, why?"

I'll keep my Rails commentary to myself

Re: Just use HTML

#47

Post by DaSHacka » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

ninetyninenine wrote: post #18

I wish html would just look good from the get go.

Theoretically if pure-HTML documents without CSS/JS got more common, end-users could just apply ther own 'themes' to HTML documents through their browser.

Re: Just use HTML

#48

Post by Mashimo » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

reconnecting wrote: post #19

We made tirreno website [1] with only HTML 4.01 and 1 transparent pixel, no CSS or JS. Works well on any device. Easy to update. Highly recommended. [1] https://www.tirreno.com/

> Easy to update.

How does updating the font or color work? Search and replace on multiple HTML files?

Re: Just use HTML

#49

Post by bradly » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

reconnecting wrote: post #19

We made tirreno website [1] with only HTML 4.01 and 1 transparent pixel, no CSS or JS. Works well on any device. Easy to update. Highly recommended. [1] https://www.tirreno.com/

Nice! I'm working on a private Recipe bookmarking site that currently has no JavaScript and minimal CSS.

https://github.com/bradly/recipin

Re: Just use HTML

#50

Post by jeroenhd » Mon, May 12, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

simonw wrote: post #42

TIL (from "Choose a week to question all your life choices") about: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/... Weird that it's supported by mobile Safari but not desktop Safari (according to the support table). And not in Firefox yet.

Same is true on Firefox: works fine on mobile, but doesn't work at all on desktop. Especially weird as the mobile week picker is just a date picker that ignores the picked day and returns a week it seems; surely the same could've been implemented for desktop.