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Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#41

This title is ridiculous. He's Holmes's husband, not her "lover". They were married in 2019.

Technically they never married, which is why the original article uses a bunch of other phrases to describe their relationship, but agreed that the change from "partner" to "lover" makes the title needlessly provocative. "Partner" was fine.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#42
post #20

Rather than focusing on Holmes and her lover, I'd like to posit some other questions I have with this approach. Let's assume for just a minute that Holmes wasn't trying to rug pull and that she genuinely wanted Theranos to succeed in it's stated mission. Wouldn't a foundational invention like this 20-30 years ago come out of a university lab? It feels like VC funding is not the right vehicle for the kind of developme…

That was implication of the original con. She was this superstar Stanford undergrad who’d discovered something so radically important she had to drop out of school for the sake of humanity.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#43
post #5

Doesn't look like any smart money on this one yet, but there's something bold about it. It's like Nassim Taleb's thing that you hire the ugly surgeon. This is one hideous surgeon. Fraud seems near impossible here. [Edit: a lot of thoughtful responses but downvoting?]

Matt Levine (financial columnist) often makes the point (or joke) that in fund management there a tendency to reward (as in: they get more money to manage) people who lost a lot of money, on the basis that they did manage to have a lot of money to start with, make bold bets, and should at least have learned something at this point.

That is not unique to fund managers.

Second time entrepreneurs are more likely to raise capital even if their first venture failed and spectacularly so.

Adam Neumann got funded by a16z(their largest?) despite all the governance issues at Wework , there are many other examples of high profile and regular entrepreneurs getting funding .

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#44

Awful title; this is her husband, not her "lover."

1: they were never married

2: why is lover so bad?

I see the hate in this discussion for the phrase, but I don't get it.

Is it some modern thing where we're supposed to separate the concept of marriage from sex due to asexual types or some such?

legitimate question : I don't get it. I'm more than willing to avoid the use of lover, but someone at least explain it to me.

would more casual concepts like 'defacto' or 'commonlaw' be better? 'life-partner'? 'co-life strategist' ?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#45

This title is ridiculous. He's Holmes's husband, not her "lover". They were married in 2019.

Technically they never married, which is why the original article uses a bunch of other phrases to describe their relationship, but agreed that the change from "partner" to "lover" makes the title needlessly provocative. "Partner" was fine.

I’m guessing it was trying to distinguish between him and her previous business partners?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically they never married, which is why the original article uses a bunch of other phrases to describe their relationship, but agreed that the change from "partner" to "lover" makes the title needlessly provocative. "Partner" was fine.

I’m guessing it was trying to distinguish between him and her previous business partners?

Yeah, so I get why it was attempted. It's likely they didn't realize that "lover" carries with it a sense of a clandestine or illicit relationship, especially in the kind of saucy story this already is by default.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically they never married, which is why the original article uses a bunch of other phrases to describe their relationship, but agreed that the change from "partner" to "lover" makes the title needlessly provocative. "Partner" was fine.

I’m guessing it was trying to distinguish between him and her previous business partners?

Yea I now see that, but what ever happened to the word “boyfriend”? It does the job and doesn’t sound like something out of 19th century literature or “clandestine” as a sibling commenter is saying.

I see the same thing happening in Spanish - no one can say “novio/a” anymore. Why?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#49
post #44

Awful title; this is her husband, not her "lover."

1: they were never married 2: why is lover so bad? I see the hate in this discussion for the phrase, but I don't get it. Is it some modern thing where we're supposed to separate the concept of marriage from sex due to asexual types or some such? legitimate question : I don't get it. I'm more than willing to avoid the use of lover, but someone at least explain it to me. would more casual concepts like 'defacto' or 'co…

Lover = bit on the side.

Partner = main romantic connection.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#50
post #20

Rather than focusing on Holmes and her lover, I'd like to posit some other questions I have with this approach. Let's assume for just a minute that Holmes wasn't trying to rug pull and that she genuinely wanted Theranos to succeed in it's stated mission. Wouldn't a foundational invention like this 20-30 years ago come out of a university lab? It feels like VC funding is not the right vehicle for the kind of developme…

It is possible that they are licensing technology that was developed in academic science and are raising money to scale it up and get it ultra-standarized for commercial scale.

I agree that the modern Silicon Valley model of VC funding has been spoiled by SaaS startups, where the capital expense is smaller, the timeline to exit is shorter, and pivots are easier. It is not great for deeptech innovation because those require more capital, time, and are more technology-constrained than software. Ironically, modern VC was developed to support semiconductor startups (1970s-90s), but has drifted from that technology-heavy origin.

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