Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball • Hacker News Board

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by hammock » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:35 PM UTC

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #26

andy_ppp wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That you can be identified, cataloged and controlled, potentially. We have the technology to create heaven or hell depending on who controls it…

Is that any different from reality now? At least they throw a few dollars at you for it. I suspect that my face has been recorded and linked to my profile at several stores. Palantir or similar have probably scrapped all of the internet looking to link a face to an identity. Real ID just because fully required for domestic air travel.

Has your eye been recorded at the store?

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by fnord77 » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:36 PM UTC

terrifying now, common place in 10 years.

like fingerprints or facial scans

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by n2d4 » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:36 PM UTC

tuyguntn wrote: post #5

This is the same guy who worked at OpenAI because he "loved" what he does and he wasn't doing it for money. ( Until this year obviously ;) )

What are you referring to with "until this year"? There was a report last year that Sam Altman would receive equity in the new for-profit, but he denied this, and the recent restructuring post makes no mention of it.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by voytec » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:37 PM UTC

Biometric data is valuable. Assuming that Musk's DOGE crew copied data obtained from US gov agencies, they may have also obtained biometric data of EU citizens. At least some countries have shared citizens' fingerprints with the US. Not just Visa Waiver Program applicants' but as I understand, previous government of Poland made a deal to share all citizens' fingerprints. And these are collected from anyone renewing their government ID card.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by creata » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:37 PM UTC

mapcars wrote: post #40

Something I don't understand is how is that so bad? Even today one can buy passport data, social security numbers etc on black markets leaked by government employees in most countries. Once they start using more biometric data I'm sure it will be leaked as well. If we assume that all this information is permanently available in a public blockchain, how does it change anything for society really? I can think of securi…

Justifying what Worldcoin is doing by comparing them to black market leaks isn't helping their case.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by someothherguyy » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:38 PM UTC

udev4096 wrote: post #9

He can chortle my (eye)balls!

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chortle

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by ethbr1 » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:38 PM UTC

mapcars wrote: post #40

Something I don't understand is how is that so bad? Even today one can buy passport data, social security numbers etc on black markets leaked by government employees in most countries. Once they start using more biometric data I'm sure it will be leaked as well. If we assume that all this information is permanently available in a public blockchain, how does it change anything for society really? I can think of securi…

Why would anyone want anything to do with Sam Altman to have control of it though?

At least if it's open, access is equal.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by jt2190 » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:38 PM UTC

For e-commerce to continue, there has to be a way to confirm that the transfer of funds from a bank or credit account to the vendor’s account is approved by a human who controls the bank/credit account. As AI-powered scams become more sophisticated, this confirmation will get harder/more expensive, to the point where e-commerce might not work for most goods.

Perhaps generating “proof of humanity” digital signatures from retina scans isn’t the optimal solution, but I’ve yet to hear of any other privacy-preserving approaches. Perhaps transacting online will a require government-issued ID.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by 9283409232 » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:40 PM UTC

MaxPock wrote: post #20

They did that in Kenya and now a judge has ordered that they deleted all that data https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/worldcoin-ord...

Which I'm sure he absolutely totally did. Trust him. Just like US judges telling Elon and DOGE to delete treasury data. I'm sure they did it, scouts honor!

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Post by ptero » Sat, May 10, 2025, 5:41 PM UTC

hammock wrote: post #41

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that any different from reality now? At least they throw a few dollars at you for it. I suspect that my face has been recorded and linked to my profile at several stores. Palantir or similar have probably scrapped all of the internet looking to link a face to an identity. Real ID just because fully required for domestic air travel.

Has your eye been recorded at the store?

What does a picture of your eye allow that fingerprints, face scans and other passport biometrics that have already been collected and linked do not? Honest question.