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Embracer Games Archive is preserving 75000 video games and needs contributions

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Re: Embracer Games Archive is preserving 75000 video games and needs contributions

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Exactly, and you shouldn't have to visit the archive to play its games in the first place. That's why I mentioned IA and GOG.com in particular - both let you download games remotely.

That's like saying that a digital scan of the book of Kells is identical to the authentic object.

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Re: Embracer Games Archive is preserving 75000 video games and needs contributions

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What other archives or museums are there for video games that are accepting donations of physical game media? There are probably a lot of HN readers with old games in the attic that are bound for the landfill once they get around to it.

https://oldbytes.space/@bloopmuseum

We'll miss it, now that it's moved from Baltimore to a larger space in Pittsburg. I have donated to it, and hope it continues on well past my lifetime.

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Embracer group has been around for a while but, in recent years, they acquired far more companies than they could realistically do anything with because they thought they could flip them for a profit. They failed and had to take a hatchet to much of what they acquired, pissing off fans of companies that were either completely obliterated or hollowed out and outsourced. >* Our mission is to have an archive of physical…

> Sweden, which has a really hopping museum scene Citation needed. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/25/s... https://swedenherald.com/article/tough-economic-situation-fo... For-profit museums aren't really a thing in Sweden either, because you won't be making a profit, unless you're the Vasa Museum, but even that is struggling.

Museums are sort of like farms in that you can lose money every year for entire lifetimes and still have a tremendously valuable farm. Like land, the past is an appreciating asset. That's big, traditional museums. I suppose it should be no surprise that the smaller museums are still struggling in the post-covid era. I based my opinion on visits prior to the pandemic, so I'm out of date. Hopefully the popularity of museums in Sweden will rebound.

Re: Embracer Games Archive is preserving 75000 video games and needs contributions

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Exactly, and you shouldn't have to visit the archive to play its games in the first place. That's why I mentioned IA and GOG.com in particular - both let you download games remotely.

That's like saying that a digital scan of the book of Kells is identical to the authentic object.

It is. I have very little respect for artists with sentimentality over such trivial bullshit. Speaking as someone who makes games. The jewel case doesn't matter.

It detracts from the thing-itself, like a showroom car that travels everywhere in a hermetically sealed container. That's not a car anymore, it's waste. Just because it gets driven 5 miles a year doesn't change shit. If someones spending money to preserve my games, I'd rather it'd just be a tarball in a well maintained magnetic tape vault available on-line than some aristocratic funko pop collection for a tiny amount of people to pog at in person.

Re: Embracer Games Archive is preserving 75000 video games and needs contributions

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this will be demolished before 5 years time. physical archives dont work, theyre inefficient and costly. people get bored. the best archive is torrent seeding.

Physical archives have literally worked for thousands of years.

You do have a point in that commercial ventures like Embracer don’t tend to last for very long. Presumably the collection would not be auctioned off piecemeal if the company goes under, but rather sold as a unit to some other entity.

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The contributions they're looking for are apparently games and not monetary donations. What exactly they're doing with the archive isn't stated. The FAQ doesn't explain, other than vague intentions to have the ability to do research and possibly some sort of museum (I think?) https://embracergamesarchive.com/#faq

They do state that researchers are welcome to visit and use the material. I think that makes the collection not-entirely-useless to the public. Presumably any research they enable will be published.

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Doesn't seem like they are digitising the media.

No, only cataloguing. I asked them this when I was there January last year. They didn't do this then and if I remember correctly it was because of licensing concerns and also not wanting to open boxes. I know Royal Library in Stockholm digitally archive various media, not sure what Embracer would need to be allowed to do that.

I think you’re right, they would need some kind of copyright exemption in order to properly preserve the games by migrating them to new media regularly. I’m not sure it’s possible to get such an exemption for a private corporation under Swedish law?

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Is it too cynical to think they’re just building this to train AI against your donated games?

They would be violating Swedish copyright law if they did, so they better not!

Much easier to get away with such things in the US (it seems).

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No, only cataloguing. I asked them this when I was there January last year. They didn't do this then and if I remember correctly it was because of licensing concerns and also not wanting to open boxes. I know Royal Library in Stockholm digitally archive various media, not sure what Embracer would need to be allowed to do that.

I think you’re right, they would need some kind of copyright exemption in order to properly preserve the games by migrating them to new media regularly. I’m not sure it’s possible to get such an exemption for a private corporation under Swedish law?

Ah, found it. Only some government and municipal archives have such an exemption.

https://riksarkivet.se/utforska-och-bestall/vad-du-har-ratt-...

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From their FAQ > Can I visit the archive? > The archive is for everyone, and we welcome all inquiries. However, we prioritize requests that support gaming culture, gaming history, and the games industry. /../ While the archive is not open to the public, we hope /../ The archive is for everyone, but it's only for these groups of people, and it's also not open to the public... Yikes. I'd much rather support initiatives…

Better off going to 'myabandonware' which provides games you simply cannot buy anywhere. No nonsense, just games.
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