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Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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It's interesting how Amazon is embedding robots in human-designed warehouses whereas Ocado has humans overseeing a robotic warehouse. The later is a much easier problem.

I just watched a video of theirs and i have no clue at all if this is more efficient or not.

Amazon uses a lot higher stacked spaces than Ocado does.

Are there any real numbers you can reference than just stating that Ocados way is better?

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And yet some people think AI will take over jobs. I am amazed this robot was not in place 20 years ago. Really ?

AI does and its not just 'AI'.

We are now switching over to a self optimizing system approach.

We had big data and didn't do anything with it but now whenever we do something with an LLM, we give it feedback, its getting processed benchmarked stored and used.

ChatGPT 3 was not impressive because it was good, it was impressive because it showed everyone that we started this ara now. This lead to massive reallocation of resources around the globe from a human and money perspective.

Whatever we had with ChatGPT-3 was build with humans and money significant less than what we now have. Which leads to progress unseen before and this will continue at least for now.

Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about throughput per unit, it's about throughput per unit of cost . If five cheap robots outperform a single skilled worker, robots win. But depending on jurisdiction, those five robots might still lose to a dozen or so slaves kept near starvation. For the skilled worker it's bad news one way or the other.

What skilled worker? This is a low skill worker they are replacing.

For now.

Wait until LLMs get better and destroy the ability for junior developers to get their foot in the door.

Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about throughput per unit, it's about throughput per unit of cost . If five cheap robots outperform a single skilled worker, robots win. But depending on jurisdiction, those five robots might still lose to a dozen or so slaves kept near starvation. For the skilled worker it's bad news one way or the other.

What skilled worker? This is a low skill worker they are replacing.

Have you read the article?

    "The fastest humans at this task are like Olympic athletes. They’re far faster than the robots, and they’re able to store items in pods at much higher densities."

Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human labor is shockingly cheap.

Actually it's pretty expensive in the long run. They want raises, are finicky about their health, have pesky habits like going home, having life partners and something silly called work/life balance. Also, they sometimes organize and become collective bodies under something called a union. In reality, I'm a strong supporter of everything above. Maybe we can really provide people better jobs by delegating repetitive a…

>are finicky about their health

Machines are anything but reliable. They need constant servicing and maintenance and still break entirely

Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Warehouses is definitely not where I expected robots with retractable blades to first appear. The demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXco05eK28

How does the robot assess whether there is enough space available in each bin?

It reads the state from a database?

Re: Amazon's Vulcan Robots Now Stow Items Faster Than Humans

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Warehouses is definitely not where I expected robots with retractable blades to first appear. The demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXco05eK28

That's still far slower than a human being, and those bins are far too neat.

Neat is very important for consistent performance.

A restaurant can improve performance during the "lunch rush" by letting neat slip, but that carelessness is already costing them performance at the end of the lunch rush - this works because just as this catches up they get several hours in the afternoon to clean things up. Then supper crowd where they do it again - then they have the rest of the night to clean up from that. (the restaurants I worked in didn't have a breakfast rush, YMMV)

A factory by contrast needs to keep things neat and consistent all the time because there is never a rush/downtime. They want things rolling off the line at a consistent pace all day. Any compromise for speed now is a cost latter in the day.

I have never been in an Amazon warehouse so I don't have great insight into what things are like. I would expect they want to be more consistent all day - but I don't know. Maybe all the trucks arrive at once and then they get time when they are gone to clean up. I wouldn't expect that, but maybe.

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