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Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

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Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

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Why is it stupid for specific trees to be protected?

for similar reason why specific people, animals or chairs don't deserve more protection than others.

Presidents, royalty, maybe celebrities, there are plenty of people that deserve extra protection, there are plenty of examples of animal species with small populations that deserve specific protections, and there are chairs that have more protection than others too, the Vitsœ 620 Chair is an example, and a court recognised the chair's design as a "personal, original creation of highly aesthetic value".

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

#43
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it stupid for specific trees to be protected?

for similar reason why specific people, animals or chairs don't deserve more protection than others.

People don’t have ecosystems. Trees do. And they change through age. And many species insects depend on old trees.

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

#44

I'm disappointed by the amount of cynicism on display here. Yes, it was "just" a tree, and we have others. It also seems that the stump is still alive, so in some sense it wasnt "killed". But it was also a thing of beauty that was deliberately mutilated for no reason. I think many people worry that this kind of casual destruction is becoming increasingly commonplace, and that valuing natural beauty is becoming harder…

On the other hand HS2 will end up providing a net increase in woodland.

Are you sure you mean ancient and not veteran? Ancient trees usually have some rather special protections.

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

#45
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Just a reminder, if you ever look at England on a map and try and guess where the middle of it is, that is where the tree stood, alone, surrounded by fields. Until it got chopped down. I had actually planned to walk to this tree simply because of how it looked, its location and how peculiar and lovely it seems, from a late night browse on google maps.

> Just a reminder, if you ever look at England on a map and try and guess where the middle of it is, that is where the tree stood, alone, surrounded by fields. The tree was located about 30 miles from the northern border of England. It could possibly be described as on the middle by longitude but it's far from the middle of England as a whole.

I mean Great Britain

No need to downvote me stickler!

I don’t normally say anything but thanks when corrected but in this case most foreigners would expect England to represent the GB landmass so in this case there’s no need to point out the error. Even if it was , it’s odd to start explaining the borders, it’s almost as if you are entirely confused by the prospect of the tree being in the center of the GB landmass. I’m sure you are not but that’s what it comes across as. Only saying this so you work on your context analysis in discussions.

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

#46
post #45

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> Just a reminder, if you ever look at England on a map and try and guess where the middle of it is, that is where the tree stood, alone, surrounded by fields. The tree was located about 30 miles from the northern border of England. It could possibly be described as on the middle by longitude but it's far from the middle of England as a whole.

I mean Great Britain No need to downvote me stickler! I don’t normally say anything but thanks when corrected but in this case most foreigners would expect England to represent the GB landmass so in this case there’s no need to point out the error. Even if it was , it’s odd to start explaining the borders, it’s almost as if you are entirely confused by the prospect of the tree being in the center of the GB landmass.…

Sorry you were downvoted - not me guv!

I would say it is worth pointing out though, specifically because foreigners are most likely to be confused between England and GB. Hope you get your karma back :)

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

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post #45

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I mean Great Britain No need to downvote me stickler! I don’t normally say anything but thanks when corrected but in this case most foreigners would expect England to represent the GB landmass so in this case there’s no need to point out the error. Even if it was , it’s odd to start explaining the borders, it’s almost as if you are entirely confused by the prospect of the tree being in the center of the GB landmass.…

Sorry you were downvoted - not me guv! I would say it is worth pointing out though, specifically because foreigners are most likely to be confused between England and GB. Hope you get your karma back :)

hahahaha ah no worries mate have a good day my main man

Re: Britain's Latest True Crime Thriller: Who Killed the Sycamore Tree?

#48
post #38
post #26

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cutting an annoying random tree down in your annoying random neighbor's yard is just as bad as this event. this is the foundation of western civilization. prioritizing one tree over another leads to bad stuff. many have thought this through and many have argued the opposite (as you) and have sought opportunity in dismantling this principle. it's not a new debate, despite what this HN clickbait makes it seem to be.

I'm not sure what your argument is, but as far as I'm aware this tree didn't have specific, out of the ordinary, protection. I believe it may have even been on private land so the offense is exactly the same as cutting down a neighbors tree. It also happened to damage a protected heritage site, but those are hardly unique in the UK...

it had no specific protection. it was just a tree in law. but they have a silly way of 'working out' how much it was valued and that is apparently almost a quarter of a million pounds!
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