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Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

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Re: Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

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Can we please just create a browser extension for this ?? How else can we show the people that the Trump team is stealing their money, not china!

I was thinking the same thing. How could we compile this data? Seems like something that would be popular and should exist

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It was not practical from the get-go, because showing how tariffs are affecting the consumer price requires to expose the supplier cost to buyers and I find it hard to believe sellers (or Amazon itself) would want that.

This is normal business practice. It's shown on other Amazon stores for e.g. in Europe. Where it's common to order from other Amazon stores.

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I wonder if this “prostration” is a direct result of becoming too big as a company. I cannot imagine a company as big Amazon just succumbing to political pressure to their own detriment like this unless it benefits them somehow. The only way the government can help is through their kuiper project. If only Amazon was split into smaller groups then the store will not be beholden to the satellite internet group and AWS’ integrity wouldn’t be questioned, may be. Also if split each of them will be run by a different individual and so may be have more practical

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For years Amazon has refused to display a consistent “Made in ____” label on product pages. They also will not let you filter on (or exclude) country of origin.

They’re free to do whatever they want, but it’s hardly some conspiracy theory. It’s just business. That includes deciding to or deciding not to show tariff impact on prices.

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Whenever I visit the US I get annoyed that the prices listed on the store shelves aren't actually what I pay; in Europe all prices are VAT-inclusive, but in the US none of the prices include sales tax, they're all broken out separately at checkout. I found this unreasonable and confusing until one day I read a conservative argument that this is actually a good thing, because it stops the government from increasing sa…

That conservative argument is just an excuse. The price is not shown in full, to make it harder for customer to know how much they are spending before they are at the counter. It is fully possible to show full price along with tariffs and taxes, if you want to show them. It does not necessitates misleading prices. This is just conservatives being pro-manipulation and against informed customers. When I was ordering pa…

How do you show the final price to someone when dining in and carrying out food have different tax rates? You won’t know the price until they complete the purchase.

How do you put the final price on an ad that will be broadcast over a large area or distributed in a newspaper that goes to same, with different tax rates in different parts of the area? You won’t know the price until you know which location they’re shopping at.

Re: Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

#46

There is no regulation or legislation that is telling Amazon they can/can't or should/shouldn't post this information. Amazon appears to be responding to the wishes of the President out of fealty or fear. The threat of a negative response by the President is enough to change the behavior of the company.

> Amazon appears to be responding to the wishes of the President out of fealty or fear.

Ah yes. When a company does something at the ask of a Democratic administration it’s an act of valor or bravery. When they do it at the ask of a Republican one, it’s fear or fealty.

In reality it’s neither. It’s always just business.

Re: Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

#47

There is no regulation or legislation that is telling Amazon they can/can't or should/shouldn't post this information. Amazon appears to be responding to the wishes of the President out of fealty or fear. The threat of a negative response by the President is enough to change the behavior of the company.

Let’s not also forget that Apple and Google are currently illegally distributing the TikTok app in their platforms. Despite a law passed by Congress and upheld by the supreme court that this shouldn’t be happening. But I guess the president, with no legal basis, gets to just order an extension and pinky promise not to enforce it. This is the new crazy dynamic between the administration and tech companies. https://www…

We're going into some kind of crazy corruption. When tariffs change hourly, it becomes impossible for a business to adhere to the law. The only way around that is paying off the people doing the auditing or the people at the top. This isn't good.

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#48

I guess they don't want consumers/voters to see how much China is paying??? Time to wake up and smell the coffee --- tariffs are really a tax on *YOU* --- not China. No country has ever taxed it's citizens into greatness.

> No country has ever taxed it's citizens into greatness.

Why do people repeat this? The greatest era of middle-class growth and success was when the rich paid much more in taxes. Perhaps a better phrase is "No government maintained a middle-class by letting the rich soak up all the gains".

Re: Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

#49

Someone made the observation that if the WH is proud of the tariffs and think they are good policy to bring back manufacturing (or whatever), then wouldn't they want their (according-to-them) awesome idea to be as widely publicized as possible? If tariffs are a good thing why not allow them to be 'advertised' that much more? Don't you want credit for the good idea you came up with?

If the primary objective of tariffs was really to promote American manufacturing there would be an associated "Made in America" campaign that informed consumers that they're supporting American manufacturing. These types of campaigns are almost always popular and successful. I believe this isn't occurring because increasing American manufacturing is not the only stated objective of Trump's economic policies. His stated secondary objective, replacing revenue from income tax with tariff revenue, conflicts significantly with the first. If enough tariff revenue is never achieved, Trump would not have the excuse or the opportunity to disband the IRS. Informing consumers of their tax burden puts this objective in peril.

If a change in tax policy is the short term goal, is manufacturing a long term goal? Wouldn't a robust manufacturing sector mean decreased tariff revenue? The picture isn't clear because Trump is being very opaque with his policies.

Re: Amazon Rules Out Displaying Tariff Impact After White House Attack

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There is no regulation or legislation that is telling Amazon they can/can't or should/shouldn't post this information. Amazon appears to be responding to the wishes of the President out of fealty or fear. The threat of a negative response by the President is enough to change the behavior of the company.

Let’s not also forget that Apple and Google are currently illegally distributing the TikTok app in their platforms. Despite a law passed by Congress and upheld by the supreme court that this shouldn’t be happening. But I guess the president, with no legal basis, gets to just order an extension and pinky promise not to enforce it. This is the new crazy dynamic between the administration and tech companies. https://www…

> currently illegally distributing the TikTok app in their platforms

What's the text of the law about this? Was there a free speech lawsuit over it, or is state censorship of the app store fine now? Just asking because in another thread someone is complaining that EU doesn't have free speech compared to the US.

(edit: wow, we're already flagged off the front page, huh)

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