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Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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I'm having a lot of fun experimenting with stuff like this. I'm trying to put together an unrealengine blueprints style graph editor to allow people to design workflows like this where you start with the user prompt input, which goes to one agent, which makes an initial attempt, and then that conversation history gets passed to another "agent" with a different system prompt telling it to be a harsh critic, but to als…

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Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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Have you tried n8n? It allows you to build flows like that - you can run the community version in a Docker container within a few minutes and share the configurations for the flows you have built very easily.

_#_ has to be one of the worst word shortening schemes I've ever seen get widespread. It only works with a very small number of long-lived technologies, in which case they basically just get a nickname, "k8s" "i18n". It does not at all work for larger contexts. You're basically making someone solve a crossword (2 across, 10 letters with two filled in) just to parse your sentence.

It's just another form of any other jargon - unknown until you know it, and usually specific to the use case. I see k8s and i18n or a11y and I know exactly what they mean because at some point I learned it and it's part of the world I live in. Searching for stuff is how we learn, not solving crosswords.

Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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I'm having a lot of fun experimenting with stuff like this. I'm trying to put together an unrealengine blueprints style graph editor to allow people to design workflows like this where you start with the user prompt input, which goes to one agent, which makes an initial attempt, and then that conversation history gets passed to another "agent" with a different system prompt telling it to be a harsh critic, but to als…

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Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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This is really cool! One strategy I often use (which is much simpler and more limited than this), is to finish my message with: “Please do a round of thinking in tags, then a round of self-critique in tags, and then a final round of , before responding.” It works very well. Similarly just asking it to “find the 5 biggest issues with its proposal” works pretty good (the 5 forcing it to find something , even if it’s mo…

I always do "now again but put on your critical hat"

Makes me wonder how it would do if you tell it "put on your robe and wizard hat"

Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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I think this is how we get ML models to come up with novel ideas. Diagonalize against all the ideas they’ve already tried and dismissed via self-argument but keep certain consistency constraints. (Obviously much easier said than done.)

Scaled up and spread out - this probably gets you pretty close to consciousness(?) Conway's game of life, but instead of colored squares with rules, they're LLM's with some kind of weighting - all chattering back and forth with one another - bubbling up somehow to cause speach/action

Decades ago I read The Society of Mind by Marvin Minsky. He pushed this sort of idea, that consciousness is composed of individual, competing processes. Worth a revisit!

Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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I'm having a lot of fun experimenting with stuff like this. I'm trying to put together an unrealengine blueprints style graph editor to allow people to design workflows like this where you start with the user prompt input, which goes to one agent, which makes an initial attempt, and then that conversation history gets passed to another "agent" with a different system prompt telling it to be a harsh critic, but to als…

I am thinking the same thing! Multiple "personalities", in parallel, or in series. For example, I have approximated, in GPT, some of Gemini's ability to call out nonsense, sloppy thinking, by telling GPT to be mean! (The politeness seems to filter out much that is of great value!) However, the result is not pleasant to read. Gemini solved this in their training, by doing it in two phases... and making the first phase…

I disagree.

If anything, telling GPT to be blunt seems to downgrade its IQ; it hallucinates more and makes statements without considering priors or context. I jokingly call it Reddit mode.

Re: Chain of Recursive Thoughts: Make AI think harder by making it argue with itself

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I always do "now again but put on your critical hat"

Makes me wonder how it would do if you tell it "put on your robe and wizard hat"

ChatGPT calls you a superstar and it drops into bruhspeak. Emojis proliferate.
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