I don't have money so it's not a boycott by choice... just incredibly poor, depressed and under water
You’re not alone. In my experience this presently describes most people who don’t work in technology or traditionally very well-heeled fields.
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#42One small silver lining in all this is perhaps that it is such a clear cause and effect that people will remember in future. So many economic levers take many months or years to really play out, but everyone can grasp that the president imposed big tariffs on every country and the economy instantly tanked.
I doubt it, people will forget in a generation or two. How many people have actually read The Jungle? How many people have actually seen our rivers on fire? How many people remember when the air was so polluted going outside would kill you? How many people remember corporations hiring private armies and literally killing their employees because they dared to strike? The people that benefit from so many of our laws ar…
Perhaps I’m not typical, but:
> How many people have actually read The Jungle?
It was mandatory reading in my high school curriculum.
> How many people have actually seen our rivers on fire?
I grew up with two family members who would tell us stories about exactly that. Since I was a kid, that has been my mental go-to on “why” clean water legislation.
> How many people remember corporations hiring private armies and literally killing their employees because they dared to strike?
The Pinkertons and so on? Alive and well in spirit unfortunately at places like Constellis (formerly Xe, formerly Blackwater). People haven’t forgotten about that, although it’d be nice if more people held the line against such things. FDR was spot on about the MIC/DIB.
> The people that benefit from so many of our laws are cheering their removal without understanding why they're there.
Indeed. I believe there is an old adage about how one shouldn’t tear down a fence without knowing why it’s there.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt it, people will forget in a generation or two. How many people have actually read The Jungle? How many people have actually seen our rivers on fire? How many people remember when the air was so polluted going outside would kill you? How many people remember corporations hiring private armies and literally killing their employees because they dared to strike? The people that benefit from so many of our laws ar…
A generation or two? Try four years. Donald Trump ran under a platform of "was your life better in 2020 or 2024?" to a cheering crowd. I don't know about you, but I remember 2020 as The Year Without Christmas. My mother loves seeing her children at Christmas time, but she canceled Christmas that year.
Now I’m not suggesting that your mom blames the President for a pandemic, but if there was a reason to cancel Christmas that year, it wasn’t because of politics.
We (as in humanity) barely had the vaccine by Christmas.
Precisely the wrong guy to have in office to competently manage a second pandemic.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt it, people will forget in a generation or two. How many people have actually read The Jungle? How many people have actually seen our rivers on fire? How many people remember when the air was so polluted going outside would kill you? How many people remember corporations hiring private armies and literally killing their employees because they dared to strike? The people that benefit from so many of our laws ar…
I mean we Americans have literally already forgotten Nazi Germany, or maybe we were never really taught it in a way that was meaningful.
I truly wonder about the people who read Night by Eli Weisel in middle school or high school and don’t see a problem with what’s going on now.
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#45You have a group of shoppers that are boycotting brands they feel have backtracked on positions they previously held and you have income inequality getting worse so people can't afford the things they used to. Companies will feel the squeeze on both sides of those things.
i think things they are producing are not that tempting anymore.
Given the success of Wish, Shein, and Temu, I don't agree with that. People want to buy stuff even if its complete trash.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
A generation or two? Try four years. Donald Trump ran under a platform of "was your life better in 2020 or 2024?" to a cheering crowd. I don't know about you, but I remember 2020 as The Year Without Christmas. My mother loves seeing her children at Christmas time, but she canceled Christmas that year.
Now I’m not suggesting that your mom blames the President for a pandemic, but if there was a reason to cancel Christmas that year, it wasn’t because of politics. We (as in humanity) barely had the vaccine by Christmas. Precisely the wrong guy to have in office to competently manage a second pandemic.
My complaint isn't even the virus. It is that they thought that was the best year in American history, but for most people, that was our worst year (in living memory). In 4 years when it becomes time to vote again, they are going to completely forget the tariffs, layoffs, high prices and empty shelves.
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I mean, the middle class finally died a decade ago and all the money was siphoned off to the top. I don’t think is has much to do with growth in it of itself
The upper classes have extracted growth from a slowing curve by carving more and more out of the middle and lower classes. To them it looks like growth, but it's really just stealing from the bottom to pad the curve.
Exactly, now they're out of other peoples money.
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The GP is talking about before the election, but you seem to be talking about after the election. Those are very different situations.
Before election: https://www.newsweek.com/american-businesses-supporting-dona... - they're basically the same.
> Before election: https://www.newsweek.com/american-businesses-supporting-dona... - they're basically the same.
Your link spends a lot of time talking about donations to Trump's inauguration committee, which I understand happened after he won, and generally seems to not distinguish between contributions before and after the election.