> Sending a full-resolution screenshot every five seconds gets expensive fast.
For now.
Building an AI that watches rugby
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Re: Building an AI that watches rugby
#42I'm not a rugger bugger but every 5 seconds doesn't really seem like often enough to be taking screenshots. In soccer anyway, a lot can happen in 5 seconds.
My american football brain had the same reaction. Many of the most pivotal plays are replayed in slow motion as commentators and spectators debate on what actually happened and if the refs got the call right. Also, the average play (ie. 'down') is 4-5 seconds, so not nearly enough data to determine what is going on.
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#44> We can’t hire analysts to watch every match and enter data manually. I'm surprised there's not enough fans willing to do that if you could gamify it.
This is a position in baseball. https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/03/30/fenway-park-boston-base... Here's a radio piece about the official fenway park score keeper from two weeks ago
Re: Building an AI that watches rugby
#45My observation is that watching Rugby on TV is no the same as watching a Rugby match. You're watching something where choices have been made around what you're to see, so your model is already restricted in what it can see.
You really need to take a 'full pitch' feed directly from the venue, rather than what is broadcast.
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#46Reading the scoreboard from a TV screen and selling that data is restricted in many jurisdictions. This work is pretty naive I think.
I don't think it's possible to be in compliance with every law in every jurisdiction simultaneously. There are over 300,000 federal laws in the US, and apparently no one knows how many laws each of the 50 states has. That's 1 of the world's 195 countries
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#47Reading the scoreboard from a TV screen and selling that data is restricted in many jurisdictions. This work is pretty naive I think.
Ugh. You’re the worst
Re: Building an AI that watches rugby
#48Reading the scoreboard from a TV screen and selling that data is restricted in many jurisdictions. This work is pretty naive I think.
I'd say it isn't in the US though, at least there's precedent that makes me think that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Ass%27n_...
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The AI's job as described in this article is two-fold: - The relatively trivial task of extracting textual data from the screen. - The task of obfuscating that they're publishing other people's work as their own. When I clicked the article I assumed they'd try to automatically construct analysis of the game by using AI to analyze frames of the game, but that's not what they are doing. They are extracting some trivial…
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Re: Building an AI that watches rugby
#50Reading the scoreboard from a TV screen and selling that data is restricted in many jurisdictions. This work is pretty naive I think.
I'd say it isn't in the US though, at least there's precedent that makes me think that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Ass%27n_...
I think you misunderstand that case
"compiled its scores and statistics by employing people to listen or watch the games, then enter the scores on the computer which transmits the scores to STATS' on-line service, to be sent out to anyone using a SportsTrax pager.[1]"
Notice how they watched the game and got the statistics like that. The restrictions are about using the scoreboard and the data displays and reselling/commercialising that data. It is however legal to watch the game and compile and distribute your own stats due to the game entering public domain.
Due to this many betting companies and data collection companies have to pay people to watch the game vs just scraping the scoreboard (which is the context from which I learnt about this). ironically at venue OCR is a common way to get scoreboard data.