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Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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Re: Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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A corporate NDA doesn't block someone from cooperating with legal proceedings or submitting evidence to a hearing.

Why did you just make up a legal proceeding? There are no proceedings (yet) - that is the entire point of this.

My full comment included "or submit evidence to a hearing"

A Congressional hearing can compel people to give testimony under oath. Witnesses can be held in contempt for failure to answer questions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A corporate NDA doesn't block someone from cooperating with legal proceedings or submitting evidence to a hearing.

Exactly what legal proceedings though? That's the point.

Congressional hearings can compel witnesses to answer questions under oath, among other things.

People brought before a Congressional hearing like this can be held in contempt of court for failure to cooperate. Testimony is subject to perjury laws.

This wasn't just someone writing a letter to Congress with some claims. This was a Senate hearing convened on the matter.

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Precisely why China needs to be a whole lot less important to the world. Freedom and personal liberty actually are ideologies. They don’t encompass every ideology that doesn’t make sense at all. I’d say CCP and many other governments like Russia and Ukraine are FAR more corrupt than the US. Your argument really doesn’t make sense.

Dude the US is insanely corrupt, it's just that a lot of the corruption is called "lobbying" and "consulting." Sometimes also certain forms of "legal counsel." It's whitewashed and normalized.

I’ll admit to having engaged in some of those activities if pressed.

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What does that have to do with the topic at hand? Nearly every CEO at a company making physical products from 1990 onward owes much of their net worth to Chinese factories.

I think Musk got one of the biggest concessions ever without any precedent, something like 100% ownership where no other car plant ever got that before.

I don't think that anyone could have predicted one year ago where Elon Musk would be today.

I think the same is true of next year.

That man is full of surprises.

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FWIW, she was fired in 2017 and only now is trying to become a "whistleblower." If the conduct needed whistle-blowing, surely it would have been more timely to come out almost a decade ago.

She published a book with these FB "revelations" recently, like a month ago, so kind of PR tour.

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But infinitely rich companies can of course bankrupt any ordinary human by suing them over and over again. They already look bad, so it doesn't make them look worse. Why wouldn't they just keep suing her?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_publ...

Is that's what's happening here? The bit about suing her "even if the statements she is making are true" makes me think they're not trying to sue her via defamation, but through non-disparagement agreements. If that's the case, I'd hesitate to characterize this as SLAPP. If you voluntarily entered into a non-disparagement agreement and got something in exchange (eg. in exchange for severance or whatever), then at the very least it's slightly different than a journalist or whatever trying to expose some scandal.

Re: Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely why China needs to be a whole lot less important to the world. Freedom and personal liberty actually are ideologies. They don’t encompass every ideology that doesn’t make sense at all. I’d say CCP and many other governments like Russia and Ukraine are FAR more corrupt than the US. Your argument really doesn’t make sense.

> Freedom and personal liberty actually are ideologies. Feyerabend in particular would likely differ, and say instead that freedom and liberty are what emerge when mature adults democratically order their societies, irrespective (or in spite) of any ideologies used to bind them

Yes

Paul Feyerabend, a philosopher of science, argued that true freedom and liberty arise when individuals actively and democratically shape their societies, free from the dominance of any single ideology, including science. He contended that science, often regarded as the ultimate path to knowledge, is merely one of many traditions and should not hold a privileged position in society. Feyerabend advocated for a “democratic relativism,” emphasizing equal rights for all traditions and proposing a separation between the state and any specific ideology, akin to the separation of church and state. He believed that this approach would allow individuals to live according to their own values and beliefs, fostering a more inclusive and liberated society.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0020174800860189...

Feyerabend, P. (1980). Democracy, Elitism, and Scientific Method. Inquiry, 23(1), 3–18.

https://doi.org/10.1080/00201748008601890

Re: Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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> Meta says it regularly discloses the fact that it generates advertising revenue from advertisers based in China but says that doesn’t mean that it operates services in China. It says its services are banned in China. This is phrasing is very weaselly. All foreign companies in China either partner with or are operated by a domestic company like Alibaba or Tencent. Saying "we don't operate our services in China" is l…

But this isn't Meta operating in China. This is Chinese companies operating in the US. It's not clear to me why it matters that Chinese companies advertise on Facebook, nor in what way this would give them leverage to force Facebook to commit the treason alleged by this article. Without further evidence the story isn't really adding up.

Pharmaceutical companies are huge advertisers for news publications and shows. It's not because the readers and viewers can buy the product because they can't. They advertise because it buys influence over the news.
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