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A living "brain" of cultured rat cells can control an F-22 flight simulator

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Re: A living "brain" of cultured rat cells can control an F-22 flight simulator

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Though the "brain" can successfully control a flight simulation program, more elaborate applications are a long way off, DeMarse said. Because flying a jet isn't all that impressive!?

I'd still rather watch rats play basketball than a rat brain smear fly a fighter jet. It's just so much cuter.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

sentience then

An instance of Nginx can also respond to its environment, but I wouldn't call it sentient.

precisely. So, then replace 'consciousness' with 'sentience' in my original proposition. I am not saying response to an environment is sentience; but, when using living brain tissue, there may be a chance that these computers will eventually display sentience.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, good point! I bet this lady has one of those tubs of myelin: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2025069/Joan-Ginth...

It's the daily mail. The correlation of its stories with reality is exactly 0.

Perhaps they were trying to prove she cures cancer, and accidentally wrote something vaguely accurate instead.

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the daily mail. The correlation of its stories with reality is exactly 0.

Perhaps they were trying to prove she cures cancer, and accidentally wrote something vaguely accurate instead.

I know it's bad form to comment rather than just upvote, but I wanted you to know I'm still laughing with that remark.

Re: A living "brain" of cultured rat cells can control an F-22 flight simulator

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Here's the paper: http://neural.bme.ufl.edu/page13/assets/NeuroFlght2.pdf

It looks like they're using a combination of high and low frequency pulses as a reward/punishment mechanism, though I don't fully understand how that influences the decisions being made. Would love if someone could explain it in more detail.

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Kevin Warwick has a more up to date version of this controlling a robot in his lab at Reading Uni - http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/biomedical/bionics/rat-br... Presumably someone, somewhere has a bathtub of human neurons and is probably using them to try and predict the stock exchange.

> Presumably someone, somewhere has a bathtub of human neurons and is probably using them to try and predict the stock exchange.

That's nothing. I've seen -- with my own eyes -- places where they have entire office floors or even buildings full of whole human bodies stationed trying to do the same thing.

Re: A living "brain" of cultured rat cells can control an F-22 flight simulator

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And oh the fun that the ethics questions will become if this takes root and if the brains somehow show a level of consciousness in the future.

I was thinking the same thing. Prior to reading the article [from 2004???], I assumed a Matrix-style scenario would be impossible because robots can't become sentient. But I'm not so sure that's true anymore if we're replacing NAND gates with brain cells...
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