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Lay off W3Schools

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Re: Lay off W3Schools

#41
I have learnt/used as reference way more from w3schools than I ever will from the people who created w3fools.

So kudos to them for criticizing the crap out of the site? (I do also see what they are doing as valuable, but I'd agree it's needlessly hostile).

I of course didn't learn exclusively from w3chools (I doubt anyone does), it's just a resource. Not perfect, but it's useful.

Re: Lay off W3Schools

#42

Except w3schools isn't approachable and it isn't for beginners. It's jargon loaded and filled with a bunch of information that means nothing to beginners. Let's look the page for explaining 'div': http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_div.asp "The tag defines a division or a section in an HTML document. The tag is used to group block-elements to format them with styles." Oh, I get it. Its for grouping block-elements(??)…

I completely agree. Back in the early 2000s, I remember trying to learn HTML and CSS from them and understanding very little about a whole lot. I would say that the experience effectively put me off webdev until just recently.

Re: Lay off W3Schools

#45
post #39

w3schools is not the best resource, but 90% of the time, when it shows up as the top result on Google, it tells me exactly what I want to know. Some common examples: - What values does CSS attribute white-space take? #1 result on Google for "css white-space" is http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_white-space.asp which has exactly what I need to know. - What members does the Array object in JavaScript have? For th…

So? The 2nd result (MDN) does the same, looks better, and almost never contains inaccuracies or bad practices. > it's reliable That's the whole point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable.

> "That's the point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable..."

This unreliable (albeit crystal-clear) source did not stop me from scoring a good portfolio and happy clients (http://linkd.in/ON5eHL).

Re: Lay off W3Schools

#46
post #39

w3schools is not the best resource, but 90% of the time, when it shows up as the top result on Google, it tells me exactly what I want to know. Some common examples: - What values does CSS attribute white-space take? #1 result on Google for "css white-space" is http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_white-space.asp which has exactly what I need to know. - What members does the Array object in JavaScript have? For th…

So? The 2nd result (MDN) does the same, looks better, and almost never contains inaccuracies or bad practices. > it's reliable That's the whole point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable.

It's consistent. The layout of the site is simple and predictable. It's easy to figure out where to find what you're looking for and what to expect.

> So? The 2nd result (MDN) does the same, looks better, and almost never contains gross errors/bad practices.

So indeed. I have nothing against MDN--it's great. If it was the first result, I'd click on it instead.

Re: Lay off W3Schools

#48
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? The 2nd result (MDN) does the same, looks better, and almost never contains inaccuracies or bad practices. > it's reliable That's the whole point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable.

> "That's the point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable..." This unreliable (albeit crystal-clear) source did not stop me from scoring a good portfolio and happy clients ( http://linkd.in/ON5eHL ).

Working on a crappy Fujitsu laptop for years didn't stop me either, but I don't go out of my way to defend it.

Your point seems to be that w3schools has a special place in your heart. Okay.

Re: Lay off W3Schools

#49
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "That's the point of w3fools: w3s is not reliable..." This unreliable (albeit crystal-clear) source did not stop me from scoring a good portfolio and happy clients ( http://linkd.in/ON5eHL ).

Working on a crappy Fujitsu laptop for years didn't stop me either, but I don't go out of my way to defend it. Your point seems to be that w3schools has a special place in your heart. Okay.

Forgive me for appreciating what helped me grow.

> "Your point seems to be that w3schools has a special place in your heart. Okay."

Yep.

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