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Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sightbroke »

sepositus wrote: post #35
sightbroke wrote: post #29

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I am not sure secularism is synonymous with atheism. I am pretty sure secular policies would be avoiding advocating or prohibiting for atheism just as it would for any other form of views that fall into religious or faith beliefs.

> Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion. It is most commonly thought of as the separation of religion from civil affairs and the state and may be broadened to a similar position seeking to remove or to minimize the role of religion in any public sphere. That's the introduction from Wikipedia, which matches my understanding of the…

Read a few more lines further:

> Secularism is not necessarily antithetical to religion, but may be compatible with it.

Generally applied to civil affairs means that it is not inherently interested in minimizing religion in personal lives.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sightbroke »

sepositus wrote: post #31
sightbroke wrote: post #24

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I wonder if there is a correlation with higher priced homes and improved school districts?

I'm not immediately aware of any studies, but I would be shocked if there wasn't a correlation. Low-income families have a higher probability of raising children in a dysfunctional home who then become a burden on the local school district. Respectable teachers then flee these schools for better opportunities. This part isn't conjecture, as I'm recounting personal testimonies of teachers who have come and gone from m…

So perhaps raise your income so you can afford to move to a better district?

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sepositus »

sightbroke wrote: post #42
sepositus wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not immediately aware of any studies, but I would be shocked if there wasn't a correlation. Low-income families have a higher probability of raising children in a dysfunctional home who then become a burden on the local school district. Respectable teachers then flee these schools for better opportunities. This part isn't conjecture, as I'm recounting personal testimonies of teachers who have come and gone from m…

So perhaps raise your income so you can afford to move to a better district?

Doesn't that feel a bit disingenuous? It sounds like you might be coming from a very privileged background and haven't been placed in a similar situation that is primarily outside of your control. It also seems to suggest that I haven't spent my years as a parent trying to do the best for my children (i.e., raising my income).

Besides all that, it seems like you simply disagree with the fact that this is a problem at all. If that's the case, we can agree to disagree.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by chneu »

krembo wrote: post #12
verdverm wrote: post #11

The brain drain is beginning

Some random dude is relocating. The internets - "The brain drain is beginning, were doomed"

I know dozens of US academics who have moved out of US or are planning to, because of Trump and conservative's war on information.

I'm just one person. It's anecdotal but speaks volumes that I'd know that many.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sightbroke »

sepositus wrote: post #43
sightbroke wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So perhaps raise your income so you can afford to move to a better district?

Doesn't that feel a bit disingenuous? It sounds like you might be coming from a very privileged background and haven't been placed in a similar situation that is primarily outside of your control. It also seems to suggest that I haven't spent my years as a parent trying to do the best for my children (i.e., raising my income). Besides all that, it seems like you simply disagree with the fact that this is a problem at…

First, I was trying to give you suggestions that may help you in your personal situation.

Secondly, I am confused as to what you think should be done. Because it appears that you do not like paying a lot of tax money but expect there to be affordable quality education available?

I mean, if you want more educational options available in your area then presumably that means the government at some level (local, county, state, federal) would have to pay for it which means an increase in taxes (for someone at least).

Third, you did say "Low-income families have a higher probability of raising children in a dysfunctional home who then become a burden on the local school district. " So it seems fair to suggest that you should consider raising the level of your income to meet your desired needs.

Fourth, in all fairness I don't have children so I am not sure why I should have to pay any tax what-so-ever for your child to receive a poor education.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by LaundroMat »

tbrownaw wrote: post #39
theGeatZhopa wrote: post #13

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what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? The market will regulate the demand & supply of places and the universities have an incentive to grow and to attract students by quality. If its mormon-university and mormonism happens to be in big-demand, so then its a mormon university that gets subsidies. At least, its in europe mos…

> what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? From what I understand it usually works better to pay for results rather than effort.

Paying for results sounds efficient, until you start thinking about what those results should be and how you'd prevent policy makers anyone politicizing them and educational institutions from gaming them.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by pfannkuchen »

MengerSponge wrote: post #34
pfannkuchen wrote: post #21

One thing I think is interesting about the fascism label is - if you time traveled the US government leadership from 1945 to today, who would they align with more? How would they treat these issues? Or was the US fascist in 1923 when the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind that Indians aren’t white and therefore can’t be granted citizenship? That seems, like, massively more “fascist” than anyth…

1923 Germany wasn't fascist either. 1933 Germany, for what it's worth, liked a lot of things about 1923 America. Nazi eugenics grew from American ideas.

1923 Germany not being fascist is irrelevant to my point.

My point is that during the time period where USA was considered fascist-fighting heroes according to the mainstream account, they themselves had many views that were considered normal back then but strongly “fascist” today. I guess the definition of fascist must have changed?

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by theshrike79 »

RandomBacon wrote: post #7
lwansbrough wrote: post #6

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Surely it will only be 4 years!

It was the first time. How much do you want to wager?

The first time he didn't have a plan and people didn't know how to manage him.

Now they have Project 2025 and people who know how to dismantle the system efficiently.

There won't be a fair presidential election in the US in 4 years unless something drastic happens, like the democrats winning a supermajority in the congress and house.

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