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LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by wrp »

Shopper0552 wrote: post #3
vunderba wrote: post #2

If I'm evaluating a potential application whose core functionality does not require external resources/servers (Dropbox for example) and they don't at a minimum offer some kind of perpetual fallback license (aka the Jetbrains annual subscription model), then I straight up bounce. Examples of good alternatives - Pixelmator > Photoshop - Davinci Resolve > Premiere - Reaper > Audition I have no interest in renting my to…

Do you have any good alternatives to Photoshop that are open source? And that are not GIMP. Nothing against GIMP, I just found it too hard to learn coming from photoshop. I'm looking for a simple editor that can do color adjustments, crop/resize images, and add text.

For simple things, I use mtPaint on Linux and PhotoFiltre on Windows. They are easy to figure out and very stable.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by tombert »

I am one of those annoying LaTeX people now, so my “word processor” ends up being tmux, NeoVim, and Nix, but I understand that that’s not for most people.

LibreOffice is honestly fine nowadays. I feel like Excel is probably a bit better than Calc, but Calc is still capable enough for most tasks.

The documents look decent enough, it’s easy to use, it’s reasonably fast, and you can’t really beat the price.

I have to admit that a reason that I haven’t touched it much is pretty silly: I like the icons for OpenOffice better. LibreOffice’s icons look too…childish? Hard to explain, and obviously subjective, but I wish I could get import OpenOffices icons into LibreOffice.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by etskinner »

donatj wrote: post #37

I've commented as much before but what do people even use office for these days? Like I hear individuals complain about the prices and I'm just like I have not needed a real office suite in years. Google Docs has been enough to get by with for free for well over a decade. Are you... creating and printing documents? Why? I haven't had a real need for a word processor since email was invented.

For some government and commercial interactions, printing things out is the only way to get something done

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by donatj »

etskinner wrote: post #43
donatj wrote: post #37

I've commented as much before but what do people even use office for these days? Like I hear individuals complain about the prices and I'm just like I have not needed a real office suite in years. Google Docs has been enough to get by with for free for well over a decade. Are you... creating and printing documents? Why? I haven't had a real need for a word processor since email was invented.

For some government and commercial interactions, printing things out is the only way to get something done

Sure, but printing forms doesn't require a word processor. You have to be creating things...

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by skydhash »

jwr wrote: post #25
vunderba wrote: post #2

If I'm evaluating a potential application whose core functionality does not require external resources/servers (Dropbox for example) and they don't at a minimum offer some kind of perpetual fallback license (aka the Jetbrains annual subscription model), then I straight up bounce. Examples of good alternatives - Pixelmator > Photoshop - Davinci Resolve > Premiere - Reaper > Audition I have no interest in renting my to…

> I have no interest in renting my tools. While I appreciate the sentiment, the world where you could use the same software for many years without updates is gone. These days developers have to invest significant time and effort into making sure the software just runs on the constantly updated operating systems and platforms — which costs money on an ongoing basis. Expecting your software to be updated regularly with…

> the software just runs on the constantly updated operating systems and platforms

Don't forget that VMs exists.

I don't mind paying the upgrade price when I need the newer version, but that should be an informed decision. These day, subscriptions are actual gatekeepers to features where when you cancel it, you lose access to the software "pro" features.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by skydhash »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #33
SoftTalker wrote: post #5

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> I'm looking for a simple editor that can do color adjustments, crop/resize images, and add text. Those are all pretty simple in GIMP though? I'm not doubting that they are different from Photoshop but how long could it take to learn the GIMP way?

I'd like to know more about color adjustments. I know GIMP can do them in some form, but I have no idea what the options are or what kind of results I should hope to be able to achieve. Documentation doesn't really seem to address these questions, though it is available if your question is "how do I run this menu item I found?" (Answer: open the menu, and click on the menu item.) Cropping and resizing are trivial. It…

There's a Colors menu in Gimp 3. But it's destructive and only for the selected layer, not the special layer type you get in Photoshop.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by threatripper »

croes wrote: post #44

Given the number of people who still right align texts with spaces or tab if they are professionals I think for mist people programs like Word and LibreOffice Writer are overkill

These people need an multimodal AI assistant that does geometrically correctly OCR of the page s screenshot and then determines the appropriate number of spaces and sizes for the spaces to accurately right-align the text.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by buovjaga »

tombert wrote: post #42

I am one of those annoying LaTeX people now, so my “word processor” ends up being tmux, NeoVim, and Nix, but I understand that that’s not for most people. LibreOffice is honestly fine nowadays. I feel like Excel is probably a bit better than Calc, but Calc is still capable enough for most tasks. The documents look decent enough, it’s easy to use, it’s reasonably fast, and you can’t really beat the price. I have to ad…

LibreOffice comes with six icon themes. Do you mean every single one of them is childish or only a particular one?

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by pickledoyster »

tombert wrote: post #42

I am one of those annoying LaTeX people now, so my “word processor” ends up being tmux, NeoVim, and Nix, but I understand that that’s not for most people. LibreOffice is honestly fine nowadays. I feel like Excel is probably a bit better than Calc, but Calc is still capable enough for most tasks. The documents look decent enough, it’s easy to use, it’s reasonably fast, and you can’t really beat the price. I have to ad…

>I wish I could get import OpenOffices icons into LibreOffice.

I haven't tried it, but I think it's quite possible: https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documen...

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