Live data from Hacker News

The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

thepennpost.com

41–47 of 47 posts

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people need to realize we live in a society and society mostly functions by having people do the right thing when defecting is easier and more convenient. This person is one of them.

What makes these tactics the "right thing"? I as a prospective employee don't get to quiz the interviewer using the same tactics? I can ask questions, but how I do know they're knowledgeable and that I want to work for them? Or should I be thankful they're even talking to me? I think it's a terrible practice and that we can do better.

The company is not forcing you to interview for them. You can interview for a job that does not require you to solve a programming question, if that’s what you’d prefer. People who try to moralize their way out of lying are frankly despicable. Just own up that you’re a cheater and don’t care about honesty. It’s not a crusade; it’s self interest.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#42

I don't understand why he (or anyone) thinks it's OK to say, cheat in an algorithmic interview, but that if you were somehow able to have an LLM secretly feed you optimal answers for any other part of the interview it's "wrong". Why is it not OK to cheat on a system design interview? Why is it not OK to completely make up a story to make you look amazing when they ask about your background? In the article he thinks c…

> completely make up a story to make you look amazing when they ask about your background?

Everyone does this

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The end result of all this, they go back to in person interviews, at least for a "final" round. Or some alternative, there is some trusted third party monitoring the candidate.

Or you just design an interview process that weeds out things that can be done with AI. We have had people use AI in our interviews and fail miserably. We have always allowed people to search and use other resources during our interviews, and made the decision that using chat was fine as long as we could see what you were doing.

Only problem I see is this can also be gamed with "human" help. Say the candidate has an ear piece

If its for a high paying position I can see someone doing this for like ~$10k (contigent on them getting an offer) which is not bad for likely a few hours work.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#44
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leet code interviews are passed by having invested time practicing at leetcode interviews. They may but do not necessarily test for clear thinking and deep experience.

We're going to disagree on this, but I have had situations arise at least once every 6 months where someone at work, or I, had to decompose a problem or come up with some critical code in exactly the same way as a LC interview. There is something very frustrating about living this experience and being surrounded by folks who refuse to admit it is real. Those same folks who couldn't help in those times. It's fine, it'…

In what situation would you be decomposing a problem or coming up with critical code in the same way as a leetcode interview? Are you saying you have had to come up with solutions without access to additional resources like the internet?

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes these tactics the "right thing"? I as a prospective employee don't get to quiz the interviewer using the same tactics? I can ask questions, but how I do know they're knowledgeable and that I want to work for them? Or should I be thankful they're even talking to me? I think it's a terrible practice and that we can do better.

The company is not forcing you to interview for them. You can interview for a job that does not require you to solve a programming question, if that’s what you’d prefer. People who try to moralize their way out of lying are frankly despicable. Just own up that you’re a cheater and don’t care about honesty. It’s not a crusade; it’s self interest.

No, they're just contacting me daily on LinkedIn asking if I can be a founder, or interested in leading something I have zero interest in or experience. I'm telling people "not interested" several times a week, let alone taking a quiz. The irony is sales people make 2x-10x more than any engineer and they never get tested.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The company is not forcing you to interview for them. You can interview for a job that does not require you to solve a programming question, if that’s what you’d prefer. People who try to moralize their way out of lying are frankly despicable. Just own up that you’re a cheater and don’t care about honesty. It’s not a crusade; it’s self interest.

No, they're just contacting me daily on LinkedIn asking if I can be a founder, or interested in leading something I have zero interest in or experience. I'm telling people "not interested" several times a week, let alone taking a quiz. The irony is sales people make 2x-10x more than any engineer and they never get tested.

People will really come up with the flimsiest excuse for lying and think they’re acting with a deep sense of justice and retribution.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

#47
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're going to disagree on this, but I have had situations arise at least once every 6 months where someone at work, or I, had to decompose a problem or come up with some critical code in exactly the same way as a LC interview. There is something very frustrating about living this experience and being surrounded by folks who refuse to admit it is real. Those same folks who couldn't help in those times. It's fine, it'…

In what situation would you be decomposing a problem or coming up with critical code in the same way as a leetcode interview? Are you saying you have had to come up with solutions without access to additional resources like the internet?

Or the stakes were such that if the problem was not solved in a short period of time your job was truly at stake?
Post reply on HN