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OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by AtomBalm »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #25
rvz wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But MCP also feels a bit overrated: VCs invested in AI and agentic companies needed a way to get you guys to accelerate agents this year. So why not "create" artificial hype for MCPs on the internet, since there were little to no MCP servers for LLMs to use despite it being several months old (November 2024) until Cursor integrated it. This is the true reason why you see them screaming about MCPs everywhere.

So the main criticism is a borderline conspiracy theory about VC's creating artificial hype for it?

Hype isn’t free. Maybe the benefit is mutual, but I can’t tell how Anthropic gets paid.

Anthropic subsidizes an open standard, but proprietary extensions later emerge that lock you into servers from their marketplace or something? I need a sociopath to help me understand this.

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by colechristensen »

jchw wrote: post #35
talles wrote: post #28

> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.

Maybe they used an LLM to explain it. Gemini in particular is obsessed with these utterly useless analogies for everything , when I would prefer something closer to Wikipedia with more context. (Needless to say, I currently don't find LLMs useful for learning about things. That's a shame because that use case feels promising.)

LLMs are like an unlimited, poorly written encyclopedia. Often inaccurate or not entirely helpful, but will get you enough of an idea to find better sources. Sort of solving the "I don't know what I don't know" gap.

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by monkeydust »

talles wrote: post #28

> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.

A good analogy I think for those in Trading might be FIX or FpML. Those protocols and standards have revolutionized electronic trading.

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by gnfargbl »

talles wrote: post #28

> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.

It's trying to say "you can plug lots of things into this in a standardized way."

https://norahsakal.com/blog/mcp-vs-api-model-context-protoco...

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by kschrader »

AtomBalm wrote: post #41
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the main criticism is a borderline conspiracy theory about VC's creating artificial hype for it?

Hype isn’t free. Maybe the benefit is mutual, but I can’t tell how Anthropic gets paid. Anthropic subsidizes an open standard, but proprietary extensions later emerge that lock you into servers from their marketplace or something? I need a sociopath to help me understand this.

The Anthropic models are running underneath everything (Claude Code, Windsurf, Cursor, etc). Whenever someone is using MCP they (in the generalized case, until now) ultimately end up using Anthropic as their LLM and Anthropic gets paid whenever someone does that.

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by vessenes »

digdugdirk wrote: post #33
vessenes wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're interested, I'd encourage you to implement an MCP integration and see if you change your mind. For instance, I have a little 'software team in a box' tool. v1 integrated github and three different llms manually (react + python backend). This is fine. You can call github commands via CLI on the backend, and add functionality somewhat easily, depending on the LLM's knowledge. Pain points -- if you want workfl…

Do you have the code available anywhere? I'm working on the same thing to learn how to utilize MCP, I'd love to see how someone else went about it.

this will break, kill your computer and probably result in loss of life. Just saying. :)

That said, here's a gist: https://gist.github.com/vessenes/ec43b76965eed1b36b3467c598b...

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by atonse »

talles wrote: post #28

> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.

What’s wrong with this analogy?

It’s a common set of APIs/protocols that includes a way to share data, capabilities, etc.

That’s pretty much exactly what USB is.

Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK

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Post by bjtitus »

jtrn wrote: post #10

I hoped OpenAI would support OpenAPI for connecting to tools. Having created a couple of MCP servers, it feels like a less flexible and worse documented API to me. I can’t really see anything that is made better by MCP over OpenAPI. It’s a little bit less code for a lot less options. Give it some time and it will also get Swagger built in. It’s solving a problem that was already robustly solved. So get we go with ano…

Emcee is a good implementation of this.

https://github.com/loopwork-ai/emcee

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