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Re: ACARS Drama

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Post by lxgr »

the__alchemist wrote: post #31
marcellus23 wrote: post #18

Interesting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209

A lot of fighters have it even worse. Buttons around an MPD, or a T9-like system where number keys are overloaded for ~3 values each.

Yikes… “Type for me, Goose”

Re: ACARS Drama

#42

Post by billyhoffman »

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Message: DISPMORNING. NEED LEO TO MEET THE AC. A PAX WAS INAPPROPRIATELY TOUCHING ANOTHER PAX IN THE ROW INFRONT OF THEM. THE FAS HAVE THE SEAT NUMBER ANDMANIFEST. FYI AND THX

https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114195325338601167

[edit: Ahh, its a Frontier flight] https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/keyword/N387FR

Re: ACARS Drama

#44

Post by marcellus23 »

Suppafly wrote: post #30
marcellus23 wrote: post #18

Interesting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209

>Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? QWERTY predates electronic devices.

True. Makes the decision even more baffling.

Re: ACARS Drama

#45

Post by buildsjets »

Suppafly wrote: post #30
marcellus23 wrote: post #18

Interesting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209

>Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? QWERTY predates electronic devices.

QWERTY was invented to make input slower on mechanical devices and prevent the mechanical equivalent of a buffer overflow.

Re: ACARS Drama

#46

Post by cccbbbaaa »

marcellus23 wrote: post #18

Interesting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209

I believe the A350 has it in qwerty.

Re: ACARS Drama

#47

Post by q3k »

marcellus23 wrote: post #18

Interesting that the keyboard for these[0] is not a QWERTY keyboard but instead has the buttons arranged alphabetically. That must be a pain in the ass to type in. Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? Do newer planes have QWERTY? 0: https://acarsdrama.com/fmc.webp Unrelated, this one is cute: https://infosec.exchange/@acarsdrama/114194436695883209

> That must be a pain in the ass to type in.

You get used to it, same as you got used to a QWERTY keyboard.

(note: this based on my experience often interacting with another device with an alphabetic keyboard, not an FMC)

Re: ACARS Drama

#48

Post by wat10000 »

lxgr wrote: post #40
netsharc wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different languages have different keyboards (e.g. QWERTZ or AZERTY). I wonder what problems would happen if we reordered the alphabet... For one thing the ASCII ordering is now suddenly jumbled up. Maybe our great supreme intellectual leader Elon will issue Magacode to supersede Unicode, kym epcy epc ngy vky yxcohy!

Sorting lists alphabetically would produce vastly different results by language, for one thing.

Already a thing for some languages. For example, Hawaiian sorts its letters as A, E, I, O, U, H, K, L, M, N, P, W.

Re: ACARS Drama

#49

Post by b59831 »

netsharc wrote: post #37
dhosek wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s long past time to reorder the alphabet to follow QWERTY order. It will make keyboarding much easier for children. We just need to write a new alphabet song.

Different languages have different keyboards (e.g. QWERTZ or AZERTY). I wonder what problems would happen if we reordered the alphabet... For one thing the ASCII ordering is now suddenly jumbled up. Maybe our great supreme intellectual leader Elon will issue Magacode to supersede Unicode, kym epcy epc ngy vky yxcohy!

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Re: ACARS Drama

#50

Post by gschizas »

buildsjets wrote: post #45
Suppafly wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is that because the tech is 50 years old from before QWERTY was the standard? QWERTY predates electronic devices.

QWERTY was invented to make input slower on mechanical devices and prevent the mechanical equivalent of a buffer overflow.

That's mostly a myth.

I've seen a YouTube video in the last couple of years that explained the true origins of the QWERTY keyboard. Originally, the keyboard was alphabetical and arranged two rows, based on a piano keyboard, the black keys went A-N left to right, and the white keys went O-Z, right to left. Then it got shortened in width and the letters got folded over (this is why at the right edge of the middle row you have HJKL and the bottom row has MN reversed as NM).

I'm not 100% sure this was the video I saw, but it has some of the points: https://youtu.be/c8f6us-Sjlo

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