Lol... they paid out in a settlement back in 2021 for discriminating against asians.
Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
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Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would group averages be helpful when making staffing decisions about individuals?
That's obvious, no? If group X on average performs better than group Y, then objective hiring will lead to more group X bring hired. Then group Y takes you to court for discrimination.
I don’t think it’s obvious that summary statistics will be helpful unless they’re particularly carefully done. Where do averages come from? If individual data points are biased in the same direction (that is, not noise that cancels out) then the group average will be too.
This isn’t something you can just assume when you see someone quoting statistics. It could be a garbage study.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the same numbers "Latinx+" are actually over-represented at Google and white people underrepresented. Neither by a large amount though. With how close the numbers actually are I wonder if the different biases of different HR people and hiring managers actually cancelled out pretty well.
> By the same numbers "Latinx+" are actually over-represented at Google… That's probably the case for much of California, where they're HQed.
Google's HQ is in Northern California.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Got any evidence for that? Is Google in the habit of paying out giant HR-related settlements for something other than protecting good ol' boys like Andy Rubin? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andy-rubin-google-settlement-se... Google has enough money to hire the best law firms too. Why would any law firm engage in frivolous litigation against a potential future client? The linked settlement is 10X that of this one, whic…
>Why would any law firm engage in frivolous litigation against a potential future client? Because the chances is getting a payout is greater than the chances of ever working for Google.
I also doubt that Google will avoid hiring a law firm just because they were on the other side in the past.
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#45does anyone care if they perform better or does even suggesting that make me a racist in the modern world?
Your statement implies the assumption the minorities in this class action are underpaid because they perform worse than white and asian employees. I'm not sure that helps you not look like a racist.
The article doesn't go into details, so it's probably a safe bet not to make these sorts of assumptions at all.
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#46Am I interpreting this correctly? It sounds like the lawsuit is filed on behalf of at least 6,632 employees. $28,000,000 distributed amongst that many is roughly $4,221.95. That's not even accounting for the law firm's stake. That seems like an absurdly low amount to pay to folks to say "sorry we screwed your career over". Google can and absolutely should be paying these people more in compensation.
Not getting a job at Google does not screw ones career over. I missed out on a job at Google and my career is doing great.
If you read the title of this submission, this was not about getting a job at Google but rather treatment of Google employees.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#47does anyone care if they perform better or does even suggesting that make me a racist in the modern world?
I think it matters, because minorities experience a lot of ways in which products fail them that probably would not have happened had their needs had been represented and prioritized. If a minority group is not represented in the development of a product, their needs are more likely to be neglected.
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#48Google is guilty of a lot of things but this is a drive-by shakedown by predatory law firms.
Got any evidence for that? Is Google in the habit of paying out giant HR-related settlements for something other than protecting good ol' boys like Andy Rubin? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andy-rubin-google-settlement-se... Google has enough money to hire the best law firms too. Why would any law firm engage in frivolous litigation against a potential future client? The linked settlement is 10X that of this one, whic…
As another commenter pointed out elsewhere, Google recently paid out a settlement claiming that it discriminated against Asians. https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20210201 This settlement claims they favored Asians, but Google paid it out too!
So, yes, it appears Google is in the habit of paying out contradictory settlements rather than litigating them.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#49does anyone care if they perform better or does even suggesting that make me a racist in the modern world?
If you read the complaint, the allegation is that controlling for performance evaluations, members of certain groups were preferred over others for promotion.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#50does anyone care if they perform better or does even suggesting that make me a racist in the modern world?
Psychology has determined there is no non-racist way to evaluate performance: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43407157