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Nvidia Dynamo: A Datacenter Scale Distributed Inference Serving Framework

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Re: Nvidia Dynamo: A Datacenter Scale Distributed Inference Serving Framework

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As someone who has run LLMs in production, using Ray is probably the worst idea. It's not optimized for language models, and is extremely slow. There's no KV-caching, model parallelism, and other basic table stakes features that are offered by Dynamo or other open source inference frameworks. Useful only if you have Use SGLang, vLLM, or text-generation-inference instead.

It really depends on the task. If you have 1 massive job, Ray sucks and doesn't provide table stakes. If you have 50M tiny jobs, Ray and kuberay is great and serves as the backbone of several billion dollar products. Good for the goose, good for the gander...

> If you have 1 massive job, Ray sucks and doesn't provide table stakes.

Can you say more?

Re: Nvidia Dynamo: A Datacenter Scale Distributed Inference Serving Framework

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I have deployed and developed on their Triton inferencing server and it was amazing. All very good C++ and well architected. This one has Rust, Go, Python and C++. Seriously? First, not many Rust devs in the AI community. How do you think you'll get community involvement. Ok, may be you don’t need it. Second, good luck maintaining such a polyglot system. I prefer at most 2-3 languages - main language (C++/Java), Python for extensibility and Shell, etc for deployment.

Re: Nvidia Dynamo: A Datacenter Scale Distributed Inference Serving Framework

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As someone who spent the better part of a year trying to get various Nvidia inference products to work _at all_ even with a direct line to their developers, I will simply say "beware".

Just curious what your issues with Triton were. We've done OK with it using it to serve LLM models w/ a classifier head via HF Transformers pipeline & Flash Attention 2, as well as serving text generation models with the vLLM back-end.

triton is not that bad, TensorRT will give you nightmares

Re: Nvidia Dynamo: A Datacenter Scale Distributed Inference Serving Framework

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious what your issues with Triton were. We've done OK with it using it to serve LLM models w/ a classifier head via HF Transformers pipeline & Flash Attention 2, as well as serving text generation models with the vLLM back-end.

triton is not that bad, TensorRT will give you nightmares

100% - probably why vLLM is now the default back-end in Dynamo.
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