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"Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

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Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#41

Just buy an Apple TV and move on

Apple TV definitely offers the best “streaming portal” experience. But it’s still kind of janky. For one thing, different streaming apps implement playback controls totally differently - why did Apple not impose a standard interface?? And for another thing, the remote control is just senselessly terrible.

Apple do have a standard player, but streaming services reinvent their own.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#43
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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some TV boxes now have hardcoded dns to prevent this

Over :53 can be blocked/re-routed to your recursive DNS server by your router.. although that's more than many user's ability, sure. Seems unlikely it's DoH[0] (:443) since that would be.. hard coding an IP or a DNS lookup loop (turtles.. all the way down). But it's possible in combination with :53 above (you'd need to recursive-block the common DoH domains https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query https://mozilla.cloudfl…

I utilize pfSense to hijack all outgoing port 53 connections and just re-route them to the local DNS server.

From there, I allow AdGuard DNS out over port 953.

I then use pfBlockerNG with a few block-lists to block DoH and known DNS over 443 servers.

Overall works fairly well, I've had an issue or two when a device cant talk to 1.1.1.1 directly....

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#44
post #6

That would be a good enough reason to drop Roku if they start doing this.

I know Roku doesn’t exactly have the greatest track record but I’ve owned them relatively trouble free since at least 2010, having refreshed them all once or twice since. Way back when Apple and Amazon were fighting Roku was the only one that had both on it. I prefer all my TVs stay dumb, so I just plug a Roku box or stick into them. No more having to get a new TV because the Netflix app stopped working or whatever.…

The Roku of 2010 was not primarily deriving its earnings from ads and selling subscriptions to people, though. Apparently just selling devices / licensing an OS was not a growth industry.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#46
post #24

If this happens to me then all my Rokus are going in the trash.

Same. And it’ll be the first time I see it, no second chances here.

I’ve already unplugged all my Alexa devices, they are going in the trash soon. Roku will be soon to follow if I see a single ad.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#47
I saw the ad last night. Took a millisecond for me to hit "down" on my remote and get to what I want. It wasn't full screen, there was no need to find the "close" button. The ad showed above the normal Roku grid and was easily bypassed. Roku already has ads in their UI, I don't understand the outrage.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#48

Is AdGuard Home a solution for this, will a Roku still work with DNS ad blocking?

Does DNS blocking work with Apps (e.g. YouTube android) using Certificate pinning?

Certificate pinning prevents MITM. It doesn't prevent blocking.

What could prevent blocking is if the device uses DoH for DNS.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#49

Roku has been gradually and constantly adding tiny little annoyances, like adding things to my home screen and changing the wallpaper. Nothing that's been a deal breaker, but the disrespect for my preferences shows, and eventually it'll be something like this that pops up. At which point I guess I'm going back to Apple TV. I want one for a tailscale exit node anyway.

Yup, and meanwhile the performance has dropped dramatically. I had 4 Roku's in the house. I've replaced all of them at this point. They're pure trash.

I replaced 2 of them with Apple TV's, 1 ONN 4k and 1 unbranded Android based media streamer.

My biggest problem with Apple TV for the longest time was the horrible remotes. The card thin, touch sensitive remote is the worst product Apple has ever made. The new remote is a huge step up, especially if you turn off the dpad touch feature.

Roku is dead to me.

Re: "Awful": Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

#50
post #49

Roku has been gradually and constantly adding tiny little annoyances, like adding things to my home screen and changing the wallpaper. Nothing that's been a deal breaker, but the disrespect for my preferences shows, and eventually it'll be something like this that pops up. At which point I guess I'm going back to Apple TV. I want one for a tailscale exit node anyway.

Yup, and meanwhile the performance has dropped dramatically. I had 4 Roku's in the house. I've replaced all of them at this point. They're pure trash. I replaced 2 of them with Apple TV's, 1 ONN 4k and 1 unbranded Android based media streamer. My biggest problem with Apple TV for the longest time was the horrible remotes. The card thin, touch sensitive remote is the worst product Apple has ever made. The new remote i…

> The card thin, touch sensitive remote is the worst product Apple has ever made.

What about the original iMac puck mouse? Or the eMate?

But that remote is up there all right. Or should I say, down there.

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